Theresa May & Trump, why the negative slant ?

He was an extremely good looking young man

Lordy Iam64, you are beyond all redemption.

It would be interesting to know what Philip said.
Since watching The Crine, and as I found it impossible not to admire the way he walked into the recent Royal Wedding, six weeks after having a hip replacement, I've become a bit of a fan.
I know, I'm lost and hopeless.

The Queen then pointed out...

It was comical - as he walked alongside HM, supposedly to inspect the Coldstream Guards, he appeared to have some directional issues - and BLOCKED her.

The Queen then oontsvto where he should walk as they inspect the troops. Even then he didn’t actually inspect the troops did he....he hadn’t a clue what he should be doing.

I bet HM and Philip has a good laugh about it later!

that made me smile Jalima, yes I expect he did inherit traits from his father as well.

Yes, we could debate this for ever more - and was it nature or nurture?

He probably inherited traits from his father too.

True enough Jalima but, we're back to to the old question as to whether adults become responsible for their own disgusting behaviour.

Some mothers of that era idolised their sons to the extent that they turn them into egocentric men.

Strange that they rarely seem to do this with daughters.

Trisher, I would think a PM has other things to concentrate on than - will he touch my hand, how can I avoid this , only twice the first time cannot be counted , she removed her hand , they were not holding hands he took her hand , she removed her hand. What nit picking

Don't blame his mother Jalima, she probably did her best, as we all do. She could only work with the material she was presented with - she failed to help him become an ordinary human being. Poor woman!

His mother failed miserably to bring him up properly.

Surprising, really, with her Scottish heritage.

I don't see how anyone can defend this boor being late for his meeting with the Queen, keeping a 92 year old head of state waiting in 80 degrees, then get in her way, causing her to step round him, then stride off so she can't keep up. It doesn't matter what your politics are - this man owes an apology to his host

You can do all sorts of things Annie. Hands behind your back, Fist clenched. Raise hand to brush back hair as he reaches out. Lift dress with the hand nearest him, not the other one. It just takes ingenuity and will (Oh but it's TM can't expect them!)

The queen is an expert at all this inspection of the troops and etiquette business, so to be generous you could say that Trump just turned the wrong way, was unsure or whatever.

However he has form, on his inauguration day I remember his leaping out of the car and up the steps, totally forgetting about Melania who was tottering on high heels holding on to a gift for Michelle Obama! President Obama was never anything but solicitous towards his wife.

Trump seems to be totally oblivious to anyone but himself.

He's a bully who likes to be in control, all that picking off fluff from Macron's jacket, bone-crunching handshakes, condescending hand-holding to put May in her place. He's truly unbelievable!

How does one work out a dodging strategy in public

I doubt she likes it, trisher. 'Put yourself in a good light' must surely be her mantra in situations like this and removing her hand would have appeared churlish.

Regarding the comments about it being rude if TM removed her hand from Trump's. Sometimes men do unacceptable things and need to have it pointed out to them that their behaviour is unacceptable, it isn't 'rude' to do so. Would Trump do this to a male PM? of course not. Did he do it to Angela Merkle? of course not.It's the second time he's done it to TM she should have worked out a dodging strategy. Of course she may like it.

merlot my dad does it too .

The whole thing reminded me of when I used to take my mother shopping. She'd point to something then walk off in the opposite direction and often as not walk in front of me then stop dead in her tracks causing me to do a sideways shuffle.

Trump probably thought, Where the hell is she?

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The politeness of kings should extend to the “politeness of presidents , especially when they are guests”
Barging in front of HM, so that she had walk round him was unacceptable behaviour to his hostess, to a 92 year old woman and to the Queen whose hospitality he was enjoying. Oh if only the Guardsman's sword could have been put to a better use than merely ceremonial!
“Manners maketh the the man” - or the absence thereof says it all about the oaf.

I heard that Trump was invited by the Queen to review the troops, which is why he went on ahead to do it.
Much as I dislike the man and think him unfit for high office, he can’t be held responsible for everything.

I know I have been dismissed from this thread as a saddo but here is my take on it.

These things are planned with precision. The security, who does what, where and when, will all have been gone over with a fine tooth comb.

Also we have at our disposal modern technology. If somebody is " running late", I assume there are ways this can be conveyed. Therefore nobody is left waiting around.

It’s not just the Trump then who says one thing one minute then denies it the next!

I wasn’t party to his meeting with her maj (were any gransnetters ?) so have no idea how anyone can say he did not show respect .

Not a swipe at the royals at all OldMeg and nor am I defending DT . But just from the small amount of footage I have seen it seems they got a bit wrong footed, nothing more . Why make a mountain from a molehill ?