Theresa May & Trump, why the negative slant ?

Queenie came out of his visit with dignity, he as usual was an offensive, ill mannered, prat. I was proud of queenie

So that is why he marched briskly up the review line - not to shake up HM but to make up for lost time so that no-one was delayed further later on. How considerate of him!

I bet ???

He and his entourage!!

To be honest, I don’t suppose Her Majesty gave a toss about his lack of etiquette. She was probably just thanking the Lord that she only had to entertain him for an hour and not for the whole bloody weekend. She probably did a hop and a skip up the Long Gallery as soon as him and his entourage left the grounds!

Really Gillybob you would actually defend an ignorant, narcissistic, racist, mysogenist bully so you can take another of your swipes at the Royal Family.

Words fail me.....but doubtless you’ll hit back with one of your erudite comments!

Should a 92 year old woman need humbling, you certaintly are a strong defendant of Trump gilly, or are you just happy that he didn’t show respect for the head of state because of your very strong dislike of her.

I choose to give anyone the benefit of the doubt and I would go further and say it might have been slightly humbling for her maj (although I doubt it) to be kept waiting a few minutes . Just to build the excitement a bit I bet she’s not used to it. We have no way of knowing what made him late anyway could have been a perfectly genuine reason although I know many would choose to think it was deliberate .

The protesters were not at Windsor gilly, there was no reason for him to be late, being a few minutes late meeting a friend for coffee is not the same as being fifteen minutes late meeting a head of state . You choose to defend him , I choose to criticise a man who lacks manners and has no respect for anyone

gillybob because of all the protesters, half of whom probably don't know what is they are protesting about .
Oh I think they do. They are worried that someone, who isn't actually all that popular in his own country, because of his attitude, is over here to take advantage of a weak and unstable government, and do deals that will enable him to regain some standing in his own country, and that said weak government will be only too happy to hand things over to him. They abhor racism, sexism and beliefs that in earlier times would have been labelled as what they really are -fascist.

It’s just the common courtesies of yesteryear, I’m not talking about the over the top bow & scrapings etc. But many of us remember & behave politely as parr for the course.
Giving up a seat for an older person was normal, these days you are more likely to fall over bags & legs the owners of which have earphones on & are oblivious to anyone outside their own world.

I’ve only just watched the actual footage Elegran and honestly can’t see what did did so horribly wrong . Ok so they got a bit wrong footed to start with but that’s it ! Has anyone even stopped to think that the reason he might’ve been late could be because of all the protesters, half of whom probably don't know what is they are protesting about .

Have you ( not you personally Elegran) ever been a few minutes late for something despite your best efforts not to be ? I know I have.

well OK fair enough.

Then I’m sorry for you oldbatty I really am .

gillybob, I actually do believe that the Queen is " my better". She has done a magnificent job.

As a mark of respect I would do what I had been told to, whatever the protocol was.

That doesn't mean I am a fan of the royals, particularly some of them who waste money and do little.

Did he do that to his old Scottish mother? Perhaps he wore her out to an early grave.

Ignoring the office which HM represents for the moment, it doesn't show a lot of humanity, or basic good manners, to keep a punctual (and punctilious) old lady standing in the hot sun waiting for you, block her path so that she has to scuttle around to walk beside you and then hustle her along at the speed of your own longer, younger legs.

The delay in appearing was probably tactical - keep her waiting and show that he is more important. Stopping stock still in front of her probably because he expected to "review the troops" on his own (most important again) but why he strode along God knows - trying to shake her off and leave her behind?

I agree pulling your hand away in front of the world press would be very rude . TM is better than that .

I find it unbelievable that people really think that her maj and the firm are their betters . That anyone should bow and scrape when they meet her, walk a pace or 2 behind ( but never touch mind you that would get you sent to the tower ). I repeat I haven’t seen the actual footage just a silly speeded up version on line . Did he deliberately try to trip her up ? Now that would be nasty .

When someone grabs your hand in front of the press pulling your hand away would be impolite, in Private it doesn’t matter

I'd be worried if the reorting wasn't negative. I am worried by the submissive attitude of TM. She should have found a way of removing her hand from his, but of course she wants trade deals with him. The hand holding indicates that she will be prepared to do any sort of a deal with him. Make way for chlorinated chicken and watch out for the sale of the profitable bits of the NHS.

I think we are astute enough to see the difference between somebody who doesnt know where he is going and somebody who is ignorant.

People in power are briefed on the details, if they care to listen .

Walking in front of a woman in her nineties ? I think it matters but i abhor bad manners so it would matter to me

Meant to add that it isn’t necessary for anyone to bow to anyone .

Well I haven’t seen the proper live coverage ( only silly speeded up online clips) so can’t comment on the “walking in front” although I’m not sure whether it matters to be honest , maybe he wasn’t quite sure where to be ? Like when you walk into someone and end up almost dancing ? She is only another human you know .