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Men changing babies.

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tanith Thu 04-Oct-18 07:36:33

Just watched a piece on the news about a man who needed to change his baby having to do it on his lap, and the video of this has gone viral with men complaining that there are no nappy changing facilities in men’s loos and want this rectified.
Whilst I agree it’s not easy but please I very often changed my babies on my lap as there were no facilities in those days it’s not rocket science and who’d want to take their baby in the men’s loo anyway.

Thoughts ladies?

kittylester Thu 04-Oct-18 07:46:25

I couldn't have done it squatting like that though, tanith, even when I was young.

I have seen disabled loos which have changing tables in - that seems the way to go.

sodapop Thu 04-Oct-18 07:48:05

I wanted to change one of my babies but nobody would swap.

Seriously though I think that men are much more hands now than in my younger days. Rather than put a baby area in each lavatory maybe there could be a room apart for all to use. I think the father had a valid point.

BlueBelle Thu 04-Oct-18 08:03:40

Oh my oh my, how many times did we change babies on knees, floors or any other flat surface
Surely one separate changing room for dads or mums or gender whatever to change their babies away from the smelly old loos is all that is needed At this rate we ll soon have a whole block of toilet facilities for men, for women, for gender different, for babies with mums for babies with dads, for babies with gender different, for short people, for tall people ........ I think mainland Europe has the right idea one toilet for all

PamelaJ1 Thu 04-Oct-18 08:52:38

The father on the breakfast show made another point though. He also has a 6yr old daughter and he doesn’t feel happy taking her in with him. I take my DGS into the ladies with me.
I always changed my babies on my knee. Even at home, but I was sitting down.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 04-Oct-18 09:05:19

I think it is more difficult for Dads/men especially if they are out with young daughters. Not sure what the solution could be, as making the disabled toilets open to parents and children, might inconvenience (excuse the pun) disabled people.

The larger shopping centres near here SE all have Baby changing facilities, with toilets.

mcem Thu 04-Oct-18 10:07:46

In my DD's restaurant, a door opens into a lobby area where there are baby-changing facilities. A door leads to Ladies'/accessible toilets. In another part of the restaurant there are standard loos for both sexes. Seems to work well!

kentmaid Thu 04-Oct-18 10:09:17

I have noted the increased use of disabled loos for baby changing. Not good for those of us disabled women (or men) kept waiting outside for up to 20 mins while Mums change babies. Specialist unisex baby changing rooms, please. No more use of disable loos.

gillybob Thu 04-Oct-18 10:09:41

I agree with the young father. If we expect men to make an equal contribution in the bringing up of their children why would we not provide equal facilities? I also agree with BlueBelle there should be seperate facilities (parents rooms) for the use of men and women with children and babies. I also don't think its very nice for a man to have to take his young daughter into men's loos although its obviously fine the other way around.

DeeDum Thu 04-Oct-18 10:13:31

The local shopping mall near me has family child & parent baby changing facilities .. this should be made available as standard,...

Agus Thu 04-Oct-18 10:19:24

There were no baby changing facilities when my DDs were babies so I kept a towel in my ‘baby’ bag in case I had to use random floors.

No way I could continue changing them on my knee when they reached the wriggly 9month old stage. Slippery little beggars?

WeeMadArthur Thu 04-Oct-18 10:19:58

I think there should definitely be baby changing facilities in the men’s loos, I know a lot of the time that they are in the disabled loos but it seems unfair that there aren’t separate baby changing facilities for everyone to use as well.

grannytotwins Thu 04-Oct-18 10:21:03

I’m involved with running a large community centre. All baby change facilities are in the unisex disabled loos. I’ve noticed that wherever I go it’s the same. A lot of fuss about nothing when this is almost universal.

GabriellaG Thu 04-Oct-18 10:22:06

Ladies loos for females and male urinals/ loos for males. All persons of fluid/trans or SI as the opposite sex, to have a separate toilet block to share.
Females often change their clothes in the washroom area of toilets. For males to be there is to encroach on their personal space.
I am not in favour of shared facilities and men had better suck it up. Change baby in your car or a communal baby changing room which is not a toilet area. That seems a sensible solution.

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:22:37

Yes there are far more single parent dads or weekend dads or dads at home while mum works these days.he has a valid point..and if theres no baby changing separately then there should be one in each of mens loo& ladies loo.(most places solution is to put it in disabled loo then disabled people have to wait for toilet while nappy changing is time consuming.But maybe some disabled folk cant always'hold on' awhile like some others,which isnt fair to them.

Soniah Thu 04-Oct-18 10:23:15

How sexist, why shouldn't men be able to change their children on a proper changing table? There are a lot of men who take their babies out without a woman present and they are quite capable. I too changed my children in less than perfect conditions but why not make it easier, or have all cubicle unisex facilities. We don't live in the dark ages after all!

Minerva Thu 04-Oct-18 10:25:11

A plea for type 1 diabetics to be allowed to use the Utopian baby changing/feeding room which ought to be the norm (there is usually one in Australian shopping malls complete with toddler activities) to do what many of us have to do 4 times a day. I absolutely refuse to test my blood sugars and then inject insulin into my stomach in a toilet so I have to skulk around to find a quiet corner to do it and you would be amazed how difficult that is in a busy city, even in a hospital outpatients.

humptydumpty Thu 04-Oct-18 10:34:53

I agree with an earlier poster, in my experience changing facilities are often included in disabled toilets.

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:35:49

A separate PARENT &baby changing room WITH A TOILET IN IT is the best solution.takes into account taking daughters in as well .and sons who get to a certain age (usually 9/10 who dislike going in ladies loo with mum but arent old enough for you to be sure theyre safe in mens on their own)but also when a parent needs loo& have baby/child in tow.Also still need changing facilities in disabled loo for disabled parents-so maybe answer is changing table in disabled loo BUT add a second disabled loo without baby changing so they dont have to wait?

Lilyflower Thu 04-Oct-18 10:39:48

Give the men a baby changing table and keep them out of the ladies'.

icanhandthemback Thu 04-Oct-18 10:45:15

Just wondering who is going to pay for all these different loos.
I think men who have sole care of a child should have access to a changing station regardless of where it is.

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:51:29

Toilets are NOT meant for "females changing their clothes" Gabriella G- and im sick of the times ladies(mostly young ladies)have kept a queue waiting while they try on or put on new clothes theyve bought while a lot of us who genuinely need a wee are waiting around cross-legged while they do so!including one lady in a 2 cubicle loo in a busy train station who informed us all she was "getting changed for a wedding"(i presume as a guest)grin.As if that made a difference!you cant use 'changing clothes' as a good reason..obviously if you ripped your clothes,or tights,or got something spilled on you etc changing is required.But the ones who BUY then fancy just wearing/ or trying for size really annoy me.angry

4allweknow Thu 04-Oct-18 10:54:09

There should be a separate baby changing area accessible by both males and females and should have a toilet for situations as the man described. More men are involved in baby care, some can be single parents with male female children. Yes, we can reminisce about how we changed our babies on our knee but I'm sure there will be the "safety" brigade out there to tell us how risky that was. As for disabled toilets, my understanding is that they can be used by able bodied but are equipped for those with a disability. They are not reserved specifically for those who need assistance. What woukd the disabled person waiting for 20 mins do if it was another disabled person causing the wait?

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:54:58

Im not keen on the more modern unisex loos that seem to be popping up more these days either- but it does however mean they are more child of either sex/any age friendly which is good on that point.

EEJit Thu 04-Oct-18 10:55:15

I haven't seen the video so can't comment, but why shouldn't a man take a baby into the men's loo. He could be a single parent, or like I did, have taken his baby out shopping, or just for a walk.