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Men changing babies.

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tanith Thu 04-Oct-18 07:36:33

Just watched a piece on the news about a man who needed to change his baby having to do it on his lap, and the video of this has gone viral with men complaining that there are no nappy changing facilities in men’s loos and want this rectified.
Whilst I agree it’s not easy but please I very often changed my babies on my lap as there were no facilities in those days it’s not rocket science and who’d want to take their baby in the men’s loo anyway.

Thoughts ladies?

123kitty Thu 04-Oct-18 11:29:03

Great response quizqueen.

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 11:28:57

Some shops(mothercare mostly)and shopping malls have separate changing/breastfeeding rooms,which have a changing table AND a comfy chair- but no toilet in- which seems a good compromise- as the loo is separate but somewhere else.(which is also a good idea for people needing a quiet area for injections?)also helps with mums/dads/grandparents who just need to do quick nappy change but nothing else- leaving ALL other loos free for just using as a toilet-maybe we need more of these rooms and just label them 'parent rooms'?im sure some dads/grandads are put off by 'feeding room' or 'breastfeeding room' signs?

quizqueen Thu 04-Oct-18 11:23:46

...and a 'poor me' attitude.

quizqueen Thu 04-Oct-18 11:22:28

There are lots of communal baby changing rooms/loos around, this man needs to make himself more aware of them before he ventures out with small children. He could also have packed a fold up changing mat which can be put down anywhere. It's about time people stopped moaning about every little inconvenience in life and sorted themselves out without running to the media all the time with a 'sad' story..

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 11:16:55

And yes there should be somewhere people can use if they need to do injections for medical reasons like diabetes,but also people who need to administer heparin as well(for blood thinning)- maybe if we had unisex parent rooms they could be allowed privacy in those for that also?

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 11:09:16

Im sure disabled loos can(physically)be used by people without a disability- but thats really what the 'other' toilets are for- for people without disability-so yes they kind of ARE reserved for people with a disability.NOT just as an extra loo if others are full. (Though of course not every disability is visible,as we know)If a disabled person was kept waiting by another disabled person then of course they'd have to just wait- same as theres queuing in ladies,or gents.But what i meant was nappy changing can be very time consuming,plus a parent may have other kids in tow.& then need loo themselves also- all that takes extra time.while a disabled person is waiting around outside.If theres a separate EXTRA disabled loo as well- without changing facilities in it then there'd be no problem.

Witzend Thu 04-Oct-18 11:05:55

I've changed nappies on my lap, too, but it's not so easy once they're past the tiny, non wriggly stage. A lot of dads are a lot more hands-on now than they used to be - I still remember a male acquaintance of my age - with 3 children - positively boasting that he'd never once changed a nappy.

OTOH my very hands-on son in law changed their first new baby's nappy before my somewhat unsure dd did! And he always does his share. So I don't think it's unreasonable to want the facilities.

Sheilasue Thu 04-Oct-18 11:05:47

Saw the news but not the film. Not good enough, it needs to be sorted.

Gaggi3 Thu 04-Oct-18 11:05:39

My son-in law has looked after his (and my daughters') boy and girl twins during the day since they were 1. He certainly needed appropriate places to change nappies etc., as do many men who spend time alone with the children of any age.

Abbeygran Thu 04-Oct-18 10:58:21

Keep loos as they are and have separate baby changing facilities. And def loos just for loos, not changing clothes etc - I’m unfortunate to have a medical condition meaning I cannot wait much more than a few mins - I’ve mostly stopped going out because I cannot guarantee access to a toilet ☹️

EEJit Thu 04-Oct-18 10:55:15

I haven't seen the video so can't comment, but why shouldn't a man take a baby into the men's loo. He could be a single parent, or like I did, have taken his baby out shopping, or just for a walk.

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:54:58

Im not keen on the more modern unisex loos that seem to be popping up more these days either- but it does however mean they are more child of either sex/any age friendly which is good on that point.

4allweknow Thu 04-Oct-18 10:54:09

There should be a separate baby changing area accessible by both males and females and should have a toilet for situations as the man described. More men are involved in baby care, some can be single parents with male female children. Yes, we can reminisce about how we changed our babies on our knee but I'm sure there will be the "safety" brigade out there to tell us how risky that was. As for disabled toilets, my understanding is that they can be used by able bodied but are equipped for those with a disability. They are not reserved specifically for those who need assistance. What woukd the disabled person waiting for 20 mins do if it was another disabled person causing the wait?

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:51:29

Toilets are NOT meant for "females changing their clothes" Gabriella G- and im sick of the times ladies(mostly young ladies)have kept a queue waiting while they try on or put on new clothes theyve bought while a lot of us who genuinely need a wee are waiting around cross-legged while they do so!including one lady in a 2 cubicle loo in a busy train station who informed us all she was "getting changed for a wedding"(i presume as a guest)grin.As if that made a difference!you cant use 'changing clothes' as a good reason..obviously if you ripped your clothes,or tights,or got something spilled on you etc changing is required.But the ones who BUY then fancy just wearing/ or trying for size really annoy me.angry

icanhandthemback Thu 04-Oct-18 10:45:15

Just wondering who is going to pay for all these different loos.
I think men who have sole care of a child should have access to a changing station regardless of where it is.

Lilyflower Thu 04-Oct-18 10:39:48

Give the men a baby changing table and keep them out of the ladies'.

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:35:49

A separate PARENT &baby changing room WITH A TOILET IN IT is the best solution.takes into account taking daughters in as well .and sons who get to a certain age (usually 9/10 who dislike going in ladies loo with mum but arent old enough for you to be sure theyre safe in mens on their own)but also when a parent needs loo& have baby/child in tow.Also still need changing facilities in disabled loo for disabled parents-so maybe answer is changing table in disabled loo BUT add a second disabled loo without baby changing so they dont have to wait?

humptydumpty Thu 04-Oct-18 10:34:53

I agree with an earlier poster, in my experience changing facilities are often included in disabled toilets.

Minerva Thu 04-Oct-18 10:25:11

A plea for type 1 diabetics to be allowed to use the Utopian baby changing/feeding room which ought to be the norm (there is usually one in Australian shopping malls complete with toddler activities) to do what many of us have to do 4 times a day. I absolutely refuse to test my blood sugars and then inject insulin into my stomach in a toilet so I have to skulk around to find a quiet corner to do it and you would be amazed how difficult that is in a busy city, even in a hospital outpatients.

Soniah Thu 04-Oct-18 10:23:15

How sexist, why shouldn't men be able to change their children on a proper changing table? There are a lot of men who take their babies out without a woman present and they are quite capable. I too changed my children in less than perfect conditions but why not make it easier, or have all cubicle unisex facilities. We don't live in the dark ages after all!

Nannan2 Thu 04-Oct-18 10:22:37

Yes there are far more single parent dads or weekend dads or dads at home while mum works these days.he has a valid point..and if theres no baby changing separately then there should be one in each of mens loo& ladies loo.(most places solution is to put it in disabled loo then disabled people have to wait for toilet while nappy changing is time consuming.But maybe some disabled folk cant always'hold on' awhile like some others,which isnt fair to them.

GabriellaG Thu 04-Oct-18 10:22:06

Ladies loos for females and male urinals/ loos for males. All persons of fluid/trans or SI as the opposite sex, to have a separate toilet block to share.
Females often change their clothes in the washroom area of toilets. For males to be there is to encroach on their personal space.
I am not in favour of shared facilities and men had better suck it up. Change baby in your car or a communal baby changing room which is not a toilet area. That seems a sensible solution.

grannytotwins Thu 04-Oct-18 10:21:03

I’m involved with running a large community centre. All baby change facilities are in the unisex disabled loos. I’ve noticed that wherever I go it’s the same. A lot of fuss about nothing when this is almost universal.

WeeMadArthur Thu 04-Oct-18 10:19:58

I think there should definitely be baby changing facilities in the men’s loos, I know a lot of the time that they are in the disabled loos but it seems unfair that there aren’t separate baby changing facilities for everyone to use as well.

Agus Thu 04-Oct-18 10:19:24

There were no baby changing facilities when my DDs were babies so I kept a towel in my ‘baby’ bag in case I had to use random floors.

No way I could continue changing them on my knee when they reached the wriggly 9month old stage. Slippery little beggars?