Trans rapist in woman’s prison ?

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Thanks garnet on it now. We need to halt this madness now

Thankyou ,Garnet25

If anybody feels as strongly as I do those self-identifying trans men should not have access to women-only spaces follow this link for an easy way to submit your views to the government consultation on the Gender Recognition Act

fairplayforwomen.co.uk/

Yes I agree very well expressed Mycatisahacker.

If he has a cock he’s a man. Not relevant what he thinks or feels or dresses or wants

He’s a man and has no place in women’s areas.

Sick to death of this bollocks.

MPs wanted to ask questions about how prison authorities came to decide it was a good idea to place that rapist in a women's prison.
The Speaker of the House would not allow them to do so.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/the-state-has-failed-karen-whites-victims/

Last week, it was confirmed that the State put a rapist and paedophile in a women’s prison. That rapist, who uses the name Karen White, then sexually assaulted four women in that prison...................................

Fortunately, a few MPs are willing to speak out. The obvious seriousness of the Karen White case persuaded more than one MP that the Commons should call a minister to explain and account for the incident.

David Davies, Tory MP for Monmouth, thus tabled an Urgent Question, a parliamentary request for the House to summon a minister to discuss the issues raised by the Karen White case, and of other transgender sex offenders in the prison estate. (Yes, there are others. There is at least one male-born rapist in a women’s prison today.)

The decision to grant a UQ and summon a minister rests with the Speaker, John Bercow. He grants a lot of UQs. That annoys ministers but pleases backbenchers. It’s probably the best aspect of his tenure as Speaker. I know he annoys a lot of people, but he’s been a good servant of the Commons, giving the legislature greater bite on the executive.

Given that, I’d have bet on him accepting a UQ on Karen White and transgender inmates. He didn’t. Mr Davies says the Speaker rejected his request. There are whispers that at least one other MP was also rebuffed.

Abusive men will go to great lengths to gain access to victims, taking training as teachers, social workers, even holy orders.
Why would anyone disbelieve that a male sex offender would claim to have become a woman in order to gain access to victims?

Some male offenders are 'becoming women' towards the end of their sentence, or after release, believing that if they are sentenced again they will be put in a female prison.
They may well be correct.

We should not be allowing a person with a penis into female prisons. It puts women at risk. We all need to be very aware of this issue. The Youth Hostel Asociation is letting males identifying as females stay in 'women only' dorms. Safe spaces for women are disappearing and it's worrying. We have to be aware that some transgender males are seeking out these spaces so they can access females and abuse them.

As a heterosexual female with a female body I find it really hard to appreciate the confusion and complexity felt by a female psyche in a male body or male psyche in a female body who mayor may not also be homosexual (I use psyche as I have no idea what 'correct' term might be) but accept that there are many lovely people who are coping with this very difficult situation.

However if someone claims to have a female psyche and has a male body I am at a greater loss to begin to understand how that 'woman' would have wanted to display such dreadful 'male' behaviour i.e. rape. I can only conclude that they must have serious mental health issues/ personality disorder over and above any sexual identity issues they may be dealing with. If that is the case then a prison is not the right place to incarcerate them.

trisher once again you have set yourself up on your high horse defending the indefensible.
Saying that you think all the posters on this thread are horrified by this incident because of ‘personal opinions and prejudices’ !!! Yes, we do feel outrage at this situation and quite rightly so.
A womens prison is no place for a man with a history of sexual violence towards women and children.End of.

Bad enough to be raped in prison, but to be raped in a women's prison by a bloke is horrific.

No-one should be raped just because they are in prison alongside people who don't have their own partners there to have sex with, and who can't find a willing prison-dweller instead. That applies to transexuals and to young men without the muscle-power to defend themselves alike.

You know what? If all these woke folk but half as much effort into making male institutions safer for all male bodied people as they do campaigning to get male bodied people into spaces where women are captive and vulnerable, we would all be living in a better world right now.

Yet for all the wails of "but mens spaces aren't SAFE for males named Emily" what have to TRAs done to improve male on male safety? NOTHING. Except accuse women of not giving up their own safety for the sake of men.

And what of the older males named Emily who DID campaign (before it was trendy) for males to be safer in male and mixed spaces? They are trolled online and in real life for identifying as Transvestites and Transexuals and just men who like dresses instead of "real women"

Male on male violence needs to be solved in male facilities.

Women objecting to male on female violence in WOMENS facilities are not preventing anyone from working towards or campaigning for an end to male on male violence in male facilities.

Dont accuse women who dont want to be raped by men of being responsible for men raping other men be default of wanting to keep themselves safe from male rapists!

What the flippin flip is the world on if people have been convinced that women saying "I dont want men to be able to rape me" = women saying "I want men to rape men...and if they do its all my fault for not letting them rape me instead!". There must be noxious gases leaking out of the soil is male-male rape is WOMENS fault!!

Trisher it was the transwoman DOING the raping, not getting raped!

She was not in the womens prison to avoid getting raped herself, she was in the womens prison to have access to her victims!

'But then perhaps there are those who think if a transgender woman is subjected to a rape in a men's prison she is getting what she deserves'. Which post on this thread led you to that conclusion, trisher?

So are the posters saying that it is nothing to do with trans or penises and just about violent individuals of the opinion that we should never have had separate male/female prisons, hospital wards, dorms etc in the first place? Was it never reducing any risk for vulnerable women to have female only spaces? Are just just as safe being bunk mates with men as with other women?

A transgender friend once said to me that you are born with either XX or XY chromosomes and no matter what you do by way of surgery you die with the same chromosomes.

I am in no way prejudiced against the LGBT community.

No one on GN would consider violence in any form acceptable, I am certain, Trisher

What you seem to be arguing is that because it's not possible at this very moment to stop all violence, we should stop none of it at all.

I sympathise with all the people raped or sexually assaulted in prison GrannyGravy13. I think the prison system needs a huge overhaul and investment and the criminal justice system needs radical change. But I don't think anyone being incensed about the behaviour of a transgender women is going to help with that. And moving one transgender person will not solve anything, nor actually will closing women prisons to trans gender women. They will just move the problem elsewhere. But then perhaps there are those who think if a transgender woman is subjected to a rape in a men's prison she is getting what she deserves. It is the simplistic knee jerk reaction I object to.

And to be scrupulously fair, he didn't actually rape anyone in prison, he sexually assaulted them.

You're not reading my mind correctly trisher.

I wish I could believe that most of the people on this thread are concerned for the welfare of women prisoners and not simply using the violence to justify their opposition to trans gender issues, unfortunately I can't.

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