America’s Purity Programme !

It seems to me Bridgeit that they are trying to go back to the days when girls were owned and controlled by their fathers until that role was passed to the husband the father had chosen for them. That is obsessive, extreme and very frightening in my view. And yes, it does open the way to extreme creepiness.

It sounds like something out of 'The Handmaid's Tale', absolutely terrifying.

I am sorry readers but this whole agreeing not to have sex till your married I don't believe in being promiscuous but this what I'm reading is completely ridiculous and outdated feelings should come naturally

Muffinthemoo. That's a lot more guidance than I got, which was absolutely none. My parents would have killed me if I had got pregnant though. Luckily my ignorance, being painfully shy around boys, and going to a girl's school, protected me. I was finally enlightened by more knowledgeable friends. That shocked me so much that it kept me safe for a lot longer, as the thought of doing 'that' put me right off boys until I was 19!
I did eventually marry, have four children, and adopt another whose poor mum wasn't as lucky as I was at avoiding early pregnancy.

If my dad had urged me to enter into a contractual arrangement with him governing the use of my vagina I would have phoned Childline.

If he had then tried to take me to some pseudo romantic ball on a date, I would have phoned them again.

The entire thing is depraved. There is a world of difference between educating your children to think maturely and respectfully about sex and relationships, and acting like their virginity is your personal possession, to be disposed of in accordance with your wishes.

Pretty much the sum total of my father’s sexual guidance to me was “don’t get AIDS, don’t get hepatitis C, try not to get pregnant but if you do we’ll look after your baby”

Just cruised through some other replies and I see that Tillybelle has heard about the ring 'thang' too.

There was a 'thang' at one time, where girls who pledged to keep their virginity, wore a particular ring.
It was very popular...for a while, almost like a cult.

Yanks are known for being kooky and sometimes downright weird.

I have female relatives in TX and can confirm that choice is not always an option for some girls in this matter. Pastors as well as fathers have great influence and I have been horrified on two separate occasions with this issue.

Go into YouTube and enter 'Fascinating Aida & I'm Saving Myself' - I think you'll like it...

Chucky you have such a rainbow unrealistic outlook on this
^ these girls are not being forced into this type of thing they are agreeing to it^ But how do you know that? They may be brainwashed, they may be controlled, Why is it the father that has to be ‘obeyed’ no mention of the mother’s role in these girls’ moral upbringing
Is promiscuity really any worse than any other generation?

It's a modern day, verbal chastity belt. And just as repressive as the original version.

I think it's creepy. A father should not have anything to do with when his daughter has sex, whether she's married or not. Too much control by men.

Just to be clear.....Nothing wrong with girls/women making a very personal choice to be abstinent until marriage. The operative word however, is 'Personal' which means no third parties can be included, least of all their fathers.

I find it very creepy, and the use of the word ‘purity’ is distasteful. All based on the mediaeval concept that sex is bad. I thought we’d got past that.

Eugh - very peculiar. Common sense, self respect, read 'The Rules' - very good on how not to get hurt. But stay a virgin 'for your father' OMG no.

Thanks for the link Emilymarie, very interesting & informative

In the LDS religion commonly known as Mormon both girls and boys stay virgins until they are married, even in the UK. My cousin in the US is a member of the church and homeschooled her children. When her daughter was getting married at the age of 23, she had to be told about sex as she didn’t know about it. This was only five years ago. She’s had two children since so I think she and her husband worked it out!

Bridgeit,

Couldn't agree more! Perhaps I'm over reacting but to me the symbolism smacks of 'daddy' pretending (and even wanting) to be his daughter's 'first' before anyone else can have her.

The entire thing makes my skin crawl!

Many posts on this thread are going on about young girls being married off at 12 or girls being forced into marriage. These terrible things should be outlawed wherever they happen.
However these girls are not being forced into this type of thing, they are agreeing to the opposite, that they will wait until they find the right partner before having sex.
As lemon grove said this takes away some of the pressure of being coerced into sex just because others do it.
Having sex when too young can, as well as stds and teenage pregnancies, cause untold emotional and mental stress issues. What most of these dad’s (or parents) are doing is not creepy, it is trying to instil freedom from the pressures around sex IMO.

I noticed on Facebook a site condemning the use of ‘flu vaccine.
Apparently, one young virgin of Idaho had received the vaccination and become pregnant, despite being ‘absolutely a virgin’.
Now, would taking the pledge have prevented this, or would she have to promise to abstain from vaccinations until after marriage?

All states excep Delaware and New Jersey allow minors to marry in certain circumstances such as parental consent judicial consent or pregnancy. In half of the states in the US under 16s can marry in exceptional circumstances.

Just googled it - I am having a lazy afternoon!!

See this for US Marriage Age eligibility
www.law.cornell.edu/wex/table_marriage

I hardly think many girls in Britain are hidebound by the bible
EmilyMaria where sex is concerned.
Now, hidebound by the Koran.....perhaps so.

Yup!