To think that GN would be better moderated by older people?

The main difference between them is that MN are more tolerant of swearing.

Carigransnet I have a vision of GN and MN crew all sitting together in the same HQ office sharing ginger biscuits.
BTW the MN crew seem a feisty lot
Am I way off the mark???

trisher I agree with your post.

I would never ask for a post to be deleted unless it was deeply offence to another poster, or a post to which I had responded had been deleted and, therefore my post became irrelevant.

Asking for a post to be deleted just because you do not agree with the opinions contained therein just shuts down debate.

If I am found guilty of any of the above I hope someone would point it out to me in a polite and reasoned way.

Cari thanks for your explanation. Could you please tell me why the messages I receive when I am notified that a post will be deleted always mention a number of posters, if the number is not relevant? And could you explain why I was issued with a "warning" when my post did not contravene guidelines although a number of posters had reported it? You see much as I like GN if its policy is only to scrutinise when posts are reported it does lead to a culture of reporting by some, not because the post is necessarily offensive but because they disagree with the views stated. The result is, because those of us who believe in free speech don't report posts, a rather unbalanced and frankly boring set of diatribes from a limited number of posters. It is ruining threads on GN and limiting posts I believe.

Miss Adventure I saw the spelling correction on the thread for new posters. It was that that I thought particularly mean.

I am all for robust debate as long as is doesn't get personal.

Just don't think their Grans should!
janeainsworth for the most part I don't object to my posts being deleted if they breech guidelines (although I would prefer them to remain) I do understand even if I disagree. The thing that really got me was being "warned" because some people had complained even though the post didn't breech guidelines. I think there also may be a disproportionate number of deletions at weekends when the moderators are probably younger staff covering, and anxious to show what a good job they are doing.

MissA

I'm sure they all swear like troopers!

I wonder. Is the GNHQ office a totally swear-free zone? No occasional "bloody", or even, (heaven forefend!), the actual (preposterous!!! ) "eff" word?

I don't think its for members to take it upon themselves, so it's lucky I'm not admin!

Different strokes for different folks, this would annoy me but not offend. We all have different levels of tolerance.

I was thinking, when I read the thread asking if our mums would have liked gransnet; my mum wouldn't have passed the standards set by the self elected grammar, punctuation and spelling police.
No wonder some people are nervous about posting.

Being on the receiving end of having my spelling errors corrected , often, it is offensive, i am use to it but it could deeply upset a new poster

I do.
I think its the height of bad manners, particularly when a new poster is met with someone pointing out their errors.
If it were me posting for the first time, it would also be the last.

That's annoying and ill mannered Framilode but not offensive, just don't respond to her.
I don't think it warrants intervention by the moderators.

I do find someone who spends their time correcting the spelling and grammar of other posters offensive, even when asked not to do so.

I think the mods should intervene with this.

Is there any evidence that posts are deleted even though they don’t actually breach guidelines, but because people complain about them? Have you been told this by GNHQ Trisher?

I too would prefer that offensive posts are left in situ. Then we can all see which posters cause the most offence, for what they are.
Perhaps if people knew that their vitriol was there in perpetuity they might moderate their own language, rather than just playing the game of seeing how far they can go and how many posts they can get deleted.

Not all the posts that are complained about get deleted, notentirelyallhere. The person on moderator duty at GN looks at them first. Some seem to be passed as OK and other not-so-nasty ones get the chop.

For instance, a thread which looks to me suspiciously as though it is by a familiar hand apparently hasn't (so far) merited deletion.

Age has nothing to do with moderating a forum, there are bullies and offensive people in all ages, there are the opposite in all ages .

Thanks for explaining that, Trisher, I hadn't understood that people complaining could get posts deleted. I agree with you in that case and it makes a bit of a nonsense of moderating and guidelines. I quite like having moderators because I have always thought that they kept the lid on the worst offenders. I suppose they feel that they can't comment but I'd like to know what the moderators themselves think.

Oh POGS I knew there was something we could agree about. It seems strange but thanks for a great post.

I have always said I dislike threads and posts being deleted as I believe ' If you say it you own it ' .

I think deleting posts actually ' aids and abets ' a poster to get out of what they said and other posters cannot make their own informed opinion of what was said.

I prefer to have the opportunity to respond to a poster that I may think has been personal or has crossed the line rather than GNHQ think on my behalf whether the post was personal / Against Forum Guidelines or not. I find the term '' Against Forum Guidelines ' is in the eye of the beholder and at times I think a post remaining on a thread is worse than one that has been removed .

I do however accept that GNHQ has a difficult job to try and get it right .

notentirelyallhere I agree that some of the posts on the politics threads may be regarded as nasty, but the point is I don't report them because I believe in free speech, whereas others do report things and get them deleted and even get people issued with warnings because they don't breech the guidelines. The point is that what this results in is moderation by offense reporting, which means that if you disagree with something report it, and the poster will be warned off, whereas others can post anything. It's why the politics threads become repetetive statements made by the same posters. I would tell you what I said but that would be cross threading which is a GN offense.

I can't imagine what you want to say Trisher that you think you're not allowed to. I stay away from the political threads because they're so nasty and often underhanded with it, the current thread welcoming Brexit is a good example. I've been involved in politics and people can certainly get hot under the collar with those of a different opinion but that doesn't make it right.
From what I've seen and experienced, the GN moderators do a good job of steering between opinion and insults. Being rude isn't robust, it's rudeness.