Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

specs, I have a lot of sympathy with you. I guess you live in the West country, where wages are low and an influx of newcomers, mainly holiday homers and retired people, are pushing house prices up out of the reach of local people.

We are an overcrowded island, with many areas where housing is not sufficient and I can see the problem. Unfortunately I am not sure what the solution is. Holiday homes could be limited, a second home is a luxury. But people wanting to move their permanent home to a pleasant area is much less easily dealt with.

Very nice Fennel ?

Did no-one realise my post was tongue in cheek?
Does no-one understand a ?

crystaltipps I've lived in London, in towns, a small town and a village.
And I have rung church bells in a large town too.

Your s/c cottage near the Beatrix Potter house sounds idyllic, Callistemon. ❤️

It was a B&B along the road from Hill Top, we stayed there many years ago and I sometimes wonder if they are still running it. The husband went fell running even though he was not that young!

How sad to watch the news last night and see Notre-Dame Spire and roof burning. An ancient and iconic symbol burnt to the ground. People will grieve for what was. And yet out of it will rise something new. A symbol of future regeneration. On the same news program was ,what I thought, a breath of fresh air from across the pond.. The gay Mayor Pete has thrown down the gauntlet and, supported by his husband, is going to challenge Donald Trump in the next Presidential elections. He said with a big smile ‘Change is coming ready or not.’
My original remarks were private thoughts and observations. We all have those. I am open to listening to other people’s points of view. Sometimes it’s difficult to understand the world around us. There are many different perspectives on life and living. And sometimes it helps to discuss things even though they might be difficult.
We also, possibly, have to realise that others will label us and treat it with a little humour.. [??].
Thank you for sharing and helping me make sense of a fast changing world.

Basically, this thread shows that people will moan about anything. People moaning about other people...People moaning about other people moaning......

Good morning Mick and everyone. Cloud is lifting already here in Cheshire and it's looking much brighter than when I first got up. Oh Oxford for shopping sounds very nice NaG55. I shall be there in a couple of weeks, Bicester too!

I'm out to lunch out with SiL and then to see friends. There may be some cake involved.

Ooops! It also shows that silly beggars like me post on the wrong thread! It's because the site froze on me so I copied then pasted on a previously viewed thread. Sorry OP.

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Criticising the fact that some don't have perfect language skills?
Nasty comment catty.
(People in glass houses?)

My original remarks were private thoughts and observations. We all have those. I am open to listening to other people’s points of view. Sometimes it’s difficult to understand the world around us

Is a forum largely (ok not exclusively) aimed at the older generation the place then to lambast those who choose to move when they retire? To blame them for all the ills of our rural communities, taking no prisoners even although there will be many on this site who have “relocated” for whatever reason and do their best to be accepted as valuable members of their chosen community?
To encourage the vilification of all as “London types” regardless of background, occupation, income?
Many judgemental and hurtful (and unjustfiable) opinions have been expressed on this thread, which was apparently only your private opinion

Some towns benefit from gentrification. One such is where my son bought a small terrace house to live in. It was an industrial housing overspill small town/village until it got a preservation order on areas of it, and private builders built some nice new houses. It's now a mixed community with some local employment, some old 'overspill' residents, and some newcomers who prefer a small town/village to the city.

The balance of population is such that any old or disabled people will not have too much difficulty finding home help or personal carers among the younger residents who want to work.

The trouble with some of these coastal resorts as places to retire to is that older retired(and second homes owners) outnumber the younger residents so that it's difficult to get domestic help. My mother used to live in such a place before the younger people moved away so she was okay but now the population seems to be in sort of ghettos class by class.

Housing developers now have to include social housing mixed or low value houses mixed up with more expensive houses.

I believe that there are still some idyllic places to retire to which are also affordable but they take some searching out and they will not be in the South or South West!

Just remember my maternal grandparents retiring to a Sussex coastal town from where they lived in Kent. My mother remarked the road where they had relocated to was already a haven for widows, and sure enough in due course my grandma joined their numbers. My mum observed at that time, perhaps it wasn't the wisest move. Eventually, we sold our house bought a larger one and grandma came to live with us for a couple of years before she died. Then blow me down what did my parents do on retirement, move from Surrey to the Sussex coast and history repeated itself again and my father died first. However, my mother had built a life for herself down there, more so than my grandma I think.

"The trouble with some of these coastal resorts is that the older retired outnumber the younger residents" You're not kidding when we went down to visit my mother before she died, we were often heard to exclaim "look a young person!" when they were occasionally sighted

The other problem is from my own observations and those of a friend who lived on the coast the driving is truly shocking (from some from that older demographic) Not all.

Where I live, many of the lovely old Victorian villas have been snapped up by the More-Money-Than-Sense brigade and immediately turned from homes into fortresses.

Established old hedges are ripped out in favour of high and solid brick walls topped with spikes, equally high electronic iron gates back with sheets of black steel, CCTV cameras atop the gateposts and a vivid notice slapped on the gate warning of security, infra-red alarms, surveillance equipment, tresspassers-will-be-prosecuted, etc.

Vehicles (the inevitable massive 4x4 of course) with blacked out windows silently slip in and out of these places and we rarely see the new occupants. It's as if the village has been taken over with alarming stealth by aliens from another galaxy......

I am a relative newcomer to GN and empathise with the opening post here, I can see that it is private musings and thoughts being expressed on public forum. There is an awful amount of nasty vitriol on some of the following posts. I find it quite shocking that words come out as though they are spat at the op.

We have to face facts, if there were good jobs in these lovely places, then people would stay. If house prices had not gone skywards in the SE then people might not be tempted to cash in. If older people were encouraged to downsize within their community, they might never move away. If buying family homes as holiday homes was banned then maybe families could afford to stay where they grew up. On and on but nothing is worth that vitriol and nastiness that I see

This is a common issue in rural areas but local people are the ones selling their homes to ' outsiders' aren't they? You can't blame townies for wanting to retire to the country. They are looking for a different lifestyle after years of being on the treadmill. Isn't the real issue that there are not enough affordable homes being built and offered to local young people and that is a political issue.

You are just about to move I believe Craftyone
Without compromising anonymity, how far are you moving? And is it to a town, a rural area or seaside town?
Many older people retire to be nearer their children so that they can help with school runs or babysitting.
Moving within one’s community may be impractical.

SPECS you should get your eyes tested ..this is a beautiful world and you don't own it...ever watched the first episode of the Vicar of Dibley...shock she was new and a woman ...they didn't want her either...no..no.. no ..no ..yes

Specs I think you need to bear in mind that those retirees you complain so bitterly about will be contributing to your community in a positive way.

You say that locals in the main are on fairly low wages. Well these newcomers (especially those from London and the south east )will have money to spend in the shops, pubs, restaurants, as well as providing work for tradesmen with home renovations etc.

Give them a chance. You will probably be pleasantly surprised at how much they contribute to your insular little community.

JenniferEccles, yes, they will have money to spend. Most of it will be the very large sum they have from selling a house in a better paid, more expensive property area and with their larger capital sum and their increasing numbers driving up the demand and prices for houses, locals can no longer afford to live in the area - and when they go so do all those services the retirees expect to spend their money on.

yes maw I am moving soon, away from a small village which is not suitable for someone who will need buses and local shops. Not far at all, I could cycle to my new smaller house on my electric bike. My present house is being bought by a younger version of me, who lives a few miles away. We don`t tend to get many `townies` here because it really is not one of those chocolate box village green places. People are not rich here and houses are modest, community is fantastic

I am moving to a small market town, not coastal and a tad closer to a dd. The same community really in that it would be the same large supermarkets and banks, however my aim is to walk or cycle to the nice local shops, to help keep them alive

notanan you said "And sweet jesus.... being pushed out of your home broadens your mind? Are people for real?" Was that in response to my "If travel broadens the mind surely meeting people who come from other places does the same?"? Because I can't see any other comment it could relate to. Where did I say anything about being 'pushed out of your home'? For goodness sake, if you have an argument about something why not stick to it instead of inventing something which is not there!

I have lived in many different places so must have been an incomer each time but I never experienced any such nasty people who resented me. Was I supposed to stay where I was when redundancy hit us instead of going where the work was? Should we have turned down promotion and not moved? Some times we moved to more expensive areas and sometimes to less expensive ones. Not sure what kind of horrible person that makes me.