Retirees bombarding our beautiful rural seaside area

I chose to retire to a suburb of a small commercial city.

The northern seaside village where I used to live is now a very expensive to buy a house or rent one. The three small village grocers have gone and have become cafes for the summer visitors. The village bank has gone and become a house. The post office has gone. When I lived there it was a community where each individual had a place.

Back to the English people in Scotland point, there are probably more Scottish people in England!!
Not that this bothers me at all?

Callistemon some of those apply in cities too! Apparently when new build flats were built in a city next door to a loud evening venue the people who bought them applied to have the venue's licence removed because of the noise!

I might also defend the change from pub to bistro or tea rooms to coffee shops if it is the only way they can survive. Probably though tea rooms might do better than coffee shops these days, especially if they serve home made cakes. Just pondering not disagreeing.

You may be right, although some old pubs now bistros near us have more than doubled the prices!

Sign of the time Callistemon there are so many more bars and restaurants than there used to be. Who are the people using them all week? Can't be the young because we keep reading they are too hard up to pay rent of buy a property

It is not just a matter of pricing out local people. Around us some 65% of houses are holiday homes which are only used a few times a year. As I walk my dog down to the beach , most of the houses I pass are unoccupied which destroys the local community. Local shops and trades cannot survive due to lack of business. Yes, it is local people selling the houses for as much as they can get, and who can blame them; but it does change the whole area and forces young people to move away due to lack of rental, no jobs, impossible to get on housing ladder.
When these owners visit, they bring everything with them so do not spend money locally. There is nothing anyone can do except accept that life changes but I can understand why people get angry.

Oh it really went belly-up round 'ere when them ol' Romans came with their fancy roads an' bridges an' readin' an' writin'. What have they ever done for us eh?

Callistemon, no I was making a playful reply to Maw's comment about why older people might be attending an oversubscribed school.

Got it now.

Holiday homes are a different issue altogether, though, patcaf and your point is well made.

However, the OP is talking about folks who have retired to their holiday paradise land - the paradise where she lives where the area is predominantly rural, with few large employers generating good incomes and thus pension pots are often low..

Another point is that, if there are few large employers then young people will move away to seek work. Older retirees moving to the area may bring much-needed income to the area if they shop locally, use local tradesmen etc.

People are being goady and disingenuous now by refusing to acknowledge that it is problematic to chose to move into a community and then immediately set out to change that community because you know better than insular inbred morris dancing country folk to quote this thread

Or. As has also happened where I live, move in then object to any infrastructure modernisations that the community needs to accomodate raising numbers such as widening of country roads etc because your view (in your newly build/extended/converted "dream house") matters more than the practical needs of the people trying to make a living in the area. God forbit the community dare to be anything but a picturesque museum of tweeness for you!

And sweet jesus.... being pushed out of your home broadens your mind? Are people for real?

These influxes REDUCE diversity they dont increase it. Making an area "exclusive" isn't mind broadening.

Love how everyone completely glosses over the RENTERS affected and thinks all locals this happens to are skipping off to the bank when 2 ajoining semis are bought and knocked through so that now instead of 2 families having homes, theres one "dream home" etc...

Another point is that, if there are few large employers then young people will move away to seek work.

We are not talking about them though. We are talking about the people who DO work in the area, who can no longer live in it.

A previously mixed generational mixed income area becoming an exclusive ex london retirement "hub" isnt natural ebb and flow where its all win-win

NOT everybody who retires to a village or the seaside necessarily wades in à la Lynda Snell to run everything from the WI to the PCC. Nor do they necessarily seek to change the environment they have chosen (all that nonsense about complaining about church bells or cockerels)
What many do try to do is to become integrated in the community, feeling that a) they may have something to give , b) it is a good way to meet people and c) as retirees they may have time on their hands for volunteering etc. They will be spending money in their area which can help boost the economy, and they may have very valid reasons for choosing their home.
This blanket condemnation of all and sundry to have the temerity to move to a rural area is distinctly broad brush distasteful, stand offish and NIMBY
Not an attitude to be proud of

Callistemon
Don't move into a house near the village church then moan about the bells ringing.- we have church bells in cities btw
Don't complain to the farmer/neighbour/whoever owns a cockerel that it wakes you too early and you want it put down - we have dogs barking in cities so noise isn’t anything new
Don't buy a house near the village school then complain about parents' parking or children shouting in the playground - plenty of people in cities live near schools, children, have inconsiderate parking
*Don't try turning the cosy country pub into a trendy bistro-type eaterie
or the quaint tea rooms into an upmarket coffee shop* how do you try to turn them into something else unless you buy it or run it yourself?
Don't take over the village committees/gardening club etc and try to change everything if you are invited onto a committee should you say no? Should a newcomer not integrate? If locals are so apathetic they can’t be bothered to go on the odd committee and keep everything the same you can’t blame them surely?
Don't moan about tractors driving slowly along the road - don’t locals moan about traffic jams or slow vehicles?
Or muck spreading in the next field well they can comment can’t they? Don’t the locals moan about anything? Its not going to stop the muck spreading.
And DO NOT buy the largest house on the edge of the village then start a campaign to stop anyone else building homes well you are shooting yourself in the foot there , if you don’t want more housing or people yourselves you can hardly complain about others not wanting it.
Let’s face it, people will moan about anything it’s not a “ city” way to moan as you have just demonstrated in your litany of moans - it’s called being human. And don’t lump everyone into the same boat.

There is nasty undertone on here of laughing and looking down on lower income people.

Several posts saying, well serves them right for not moving to the city to chase the high life themselves instead of chosing lower income career paths in more rural areas where at the time they could live within their means.

Not moving to the city and getting on the property ladder young does not = small minded, stupid or lazy and it is small minded to think so.

No it does not benefit lower income people to have an influx of "city money" taking advantage of the fact that property is / WAS more affordable in areas where London types dont want to work. The trickle down effect has been debunked over and over again so please can we put that one to bed.

People who chose to hop around the country are not better or more open minded than those that don't. Those that dont are often the unpaid carers etc in life so can we stop all this LOLing at them for not being able to compete with the £££££££ influx, and for being sad about it!

There is an exceedingly unattractive undertone of looking down on retired people who, freed from the exigencies of commuting to work, choose to live in a pleasantly rural or seaside location.

There is nasty undertone on here of laughing and looking down on lower income people

plenty of that about .

And can people please stop obsessing about “London types”?
I wonder how many GN members have retired to another area and if so what % moved out of London, or Ben the Home Counties?
This clichéd stereotyping is misleading and frankly irrelevant.

“Even” not “Ben”, that’s the Broons’ weekend place- the But an Ben!

The reason these areas represent such "bargains" to london types is because the local salaries are lower and the house / rent prices of an area SHOULD reflect the types of incomes in that area.

By snapping up these "bargains" once retired from a region that pays more, you are having an impact! Not a beneficial one! So do it, no one can stop you, but dont kid yourself that you are doing the area any favours.

And no, having worked in a higher paid job does not necessarily mean you worked harder than lower imcome earners. The hardest I ever worked in my life was a min wage job. My professional roles where nowhere near as exhausting!

There is an exceedingly unattractive undertone of looking down on retired people

Retired people are pushed out when these weatlthy "bargain hunters" set their sights on a new area (because the last trendy place that got gentrified, is now too gentrified for gentrifying types , so now they are looking further afield for the picture postcard life!)

And many of them are renters so where do they go now? OH and according to this thread they also should be happy about it..

What many do try to do is to become integrated in the community, feeling that a) they may have something to give

Top tip: if you are new to any group/commitee, even if not new to the area. Join with the initial aim of learning the ropes first, rather than with a head full of how you will be the one with the unique skills to shake things up!

There may be good reasons why things are as they are. Learn the lie of the land. Help out etc

I give up. notanan you clearly have a massive bee in your bonnet on this subject, without, I hasten to add, convincing me or others of the factual background to your prejudice.

I wonder where I fit into this- mixed heritage, brought up in a small Scottish town amidst stunning scenery, 14 years in London and now in a Bucks village where I worked as a Secondary teacher in the nearest comprehensive for 13 years.
Incomer?

“London types” ??? - nothing like a bit of stereotyping. What about “Manchester types” ,“ Home Counties types”, “ narrow minded country bumpkin types” ? all ghastly. Contrary to popular opinion on here not all who live in London are loaded, not all work in finance or media, many thousands work in ordinary jobs which don’t pay a fortune - teaching, nurses, police , firefighters etc etc so stop lumping everyone together.

We, as retirees, moved into an extremely quiet rural area in France.
The commune was quite glad to see us, as we paid our house taxes and kept the property tidy etc. But there's much more space there.
In the UK space is at a premium, and so locals are more sensitive. That's my view anyway.
This was our home for many years:
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