AIBU to think he deserves a damn good slap

EV yes both had trials - what I do know is that poor SK had the most disgraceful defence team and his story and his poor mother’s is heartbreaking.

Stefan Kiszko and Barry George were deemed fit to plead ?

If someone gave me a gun I would happily shoot him

Thank goodness we don’t have the Second Amendment in this country.

And look what happened when we didn’t follow due process and allowed emotion and prejudice to get in the way - the guilty went unpunished and innocent people were punished- Guildford 4, Birmingham 6

I agree lemon it’s not beyond possible that he may end up unfit to plead anyway. These cases are really difficult but rare and as a society who believe in the rule of law, we have to treat everyone according to due process regardless of their behaviour. Think about the ICC in The Hague or Nuremberg.

Call it really isn’t that simple - big burly police officers can be badly injured by very resistant prisoners and tasering in a confined space like a cell? I don’t think any of us can begin to imagine what’s going on in this man’s mind. I don’t think we can apply the logic of if he’s innocent he would want to appear and make his case. Given what he’s allegedly done, is he really going to behave like you or me might? It is very rare that the accused refuse to appear at committal or trial but it seems the best of a bad job to do what she did and go to him for this stage. When the trial happens, they could hold it in his absence. I don’t think we should put polic officers or prison staff in unneceasssry danger.

Am presuming he has mental health issues! He would have to have them, to do what he has been doing.He will never be safe enough to be out of prison (Broadmoor?) or an institution in the future.The public must be protected from him.

Don't worry. He'll be treated better than his poor victims were !!

^ How can you safely force someone into appearing in court?
Perhaps by handcuffing him to two burly police officers and an escort armed with tasers.

If innocent, then he surely would wish to plead innocent in a court of law.

Why "a damn good slap"?

A 'fashionable' thing to say, but totally inadequate in this instance.

Come on, think about it. How can you safely force someone into appearing in court?

I think he refused the video link as well.
He should be treated in the same dignified way he treated his victims * Nonnie*

Well surely if he’s innocent he would want to appear to give his side of events
Can he not be charged in his absence after all his fate is in his own hands shouldn’t this count as contempt of court
Whether he’s guilty or innocent he should be handcuffed and if necessary carried into the court room and handcuffed to the rail while he states ‘no comment’

As Iam said, this was about committing him for trial, not the trial itself which must be some way off as I believe further charges are still being added. (and after the Warboys fiasco they’ll want to get that right). It’s also a perfect example of why we must never have anonymity for men charged with rape ( and in this case no anonymity even before being charged).

When it comes to the trial there is the provision for the case to be heard in the defendants absence if s/he voluntarily absents themselves ie deliberately decides not to attend. But we’ll see how it all pans out. The idea of physically forcing him to attend is nonsense in practice.

If he is, as seems likely, found guilty I think he should be given the longest sentence possible.

However, I disagree entirely with posts saying he should be shot, cut to pieces and left to bleed to death, etc etc etc. That sort of punishment is part of our past - and, sadly, still part of some countries'/groups' present. Even if a person is found to have committed the most violent and wicked crimes, do we really want a society in which savagery inflicted by the state is considered OK? I don't.

I thought a judge could summons someone to appear before the court and if they didn't they would be held in contempt.

I don't think the judge should have gone to him. What a farcical situation! It makes a mockery of respect for the law.

It's hard to believe the way they are pussy footing around this evil piece of shit! If he had harmed a member of my family then I would want to cut them bits off and let him bleed to death, slowly.

It would appear that this character has been let off lightly for quite a while now with the arm of the law bowing to his requests, even now.
In 2008 he'd been served with an IPP ( imprisonment for the protection of the public ) , an indeterminate sentence for aggravated burglary after breaking into the home of an elderly man and attacking him. McCann had been placed on a lifelong licence after being freed 9 years later.

This " lifelong " licence didn't stand for anything as the parole board should have signed off his release after he'd been jailed again in 2017 and instead freed him automatically at an earlier point this year half-way through his sentence.
Within weeks he'd snatched a woman at knifepoint and raped her---April this year, then after an appeal by Scotland yard, he continued his rampage.

Heads should roll-----but they won't !!

A stroppy child in school wouldn't have the option of being taught in the corridor if refusing to enter the classroom. Why should this man, in custody, be able to cause such a scene and determine how the system operates? Guilty or innocent, it is beyond belief that the system bends to suit him.

We should determine what is a suitable amount of force to use on an uncooperative prisoner, and apply it! Arm restraints, ties, cuffs and a bit of manhandling would get him out of his cell. I don't think that is unreasonable.

Why set a precedent for him? I can see millions of toe-rags in prisons/custody now using the same tactic.

Who is in charge? Sort it out.

Innocent until proven guilty in this country. However, yes, he should have been taken to court. It's not optional.

If someone gave me a gun I would happily shoot him.

How much is it going to cost the tax payer to keep him in prison for years ? What a waste of money.

I don't get it, why go to his cell when the court is right next door and linked by a tunnel, just frogmarch him into court.

Legally, the defendant has to be present before s/he can be committed for trial. The judge decided to take the court to the hospital wing where McCann is held. She confirmed he has ‘medical’ issues and dealt with the applications before her.
I share the frustration that a man charged with such serious offences appears to have called the shots but I’m relieved the matter was dealt with rather than adjourned. I’m sure discussions will be taking place about best management in future.
I don’t share the belief he should have been dragged by his hair or penis. It isn’t about being soft on crime, it’s about living in a country that has proper legal channels we can all trust in. I remember a number of posters saying that where allegations of sexual assault are made, the names of alleged perpetrators shouldn’t be publicised. I disagree with that argument as well. I’m pleased McCann is named

I was thinking the same as vissos.

I suspect he is guilty but really some of the suggestions above are pretty horrible if serious. Surely he should be tried for his crimes in a dignified way? What have we become if we think it is OK to treat someone in this way? What does it say about us?

21 people are able to identify him, what are the chances that he is innocent?