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AIBU to think he deserves a damn good slap

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TerriBull Fri 10-May-19 14:53:44

Joseph McCann has committed numerous rapes and sexual assaults on a two week rampage across England, including tying up a mother and raping both her daughter, 17 and son aged just 11. 21 offences altogether, kidnapping, false imprisonment and rape. One victim was a 71 year old woman, one girl was pregnant. Finally he's been caught and is behind bars. However, it seems that he refuses to appear in court shock so the judge, defending solicitor and everybody else involved has to demap to Belmarsh in south east London for a makeshift preliminary hearing. Unprecedented apparently! Why is this piece of shit low life allowed to call the shots? AIBU to think after a string of appalling crimes he's committed he should be dragged into court by his hair if necessary.

Elegran Fri 10-May-19 14:57:06

I would charge him with contempt of court and throw the book at him - preferably a large heavy book with reinforced metal corners.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 10-May-19 14:57:23

Absolutely, drag him by his penis as it seems to be the source of his hideous crimes!!!!!

knickas63 Fri 10-May-19 14:59:12

He should be charged to the full capacity in his absence, with the longest possible sentence. He will not appear to defend himself, so his actions are clearly indefensible.

tanith Fri 10-May-19 14:59:15

I thought it was too rediculous for words when I read this yesterday just drag him there for goodness sake or would that infringe his human rights. What is that judge thinking?

Elegran Fri 10-May-19 15:02:44

I thought that if he wouldn't turn up to answer legitimate charges he would face being forcible arrested and dragged there? Perhaps he believes that any extra penalties will be small beer compared to the sentence for the crimes. Let's hope he is wrong and he gets more added for being a **ing nuisance to the law as well as a threat to women and children.

Baggs Fri 10-May-19 15:05:04

I think I saw on Twitter that it has been decided he can be forced to appear in court.

TerriBull Fri 10-May-19 15:08:51

I do hope his eventual sentence will reflect the appalling crimes he's committed.

Yes I'm with you GG, I don't think he's got a lot of hair so yes I'd drag him there by his goolies. I can't help thinking that in addition to the empowerment he felt by inflicting all manner of terrors on his victims he's relishing a further feeling of control by the scenario that's now playing out.

M0nica Fri 10-May-19 15:09:03


Alima Fri 10-May-19 15:11:15

The whole thing is farcical. Has this happened before now or is it all down to current ideology? A slap is far too good for him.

TerriBull Fri 10-May-19 15:11:16

Just read your post Baggs, well that's good, because anything else is a complete farce.

vissos Fri 10-May-19 15:17:11

I hesitate to say it, in fact I agree with all the above, but... Innocent until proved guilty?

Grannyknot Fri 10-May-19 15:19:47

But Vissos let him then contest the allegation against him in court! Part of me admired the judge for setting up the case in his cell that'll show him but a huge part of me despaired that he can refuse to leave his cell! What...?

sodapop Fri 10-May-19 15:24:09

I couldn't believe he was allowed to do this either. They should add an extra term to his sentence for each refusal. Definitely should be made to attend. It seems he was released in the first place by mistake. Heads should roll for that as well.

humptydumpty Fri 10-May-19 15:27:48

I must admit I agree with vissos, everyone is assuming he's guilty..

Oldwoman70 Fri 10-May-19 15:29:43

If he refused to leave the prison why wasn't the hearing done via video link?

Baggs Fri 10-May-19 15:30:43

Everyone, humpty? Perhaps people are assuming he needs to be on court to hear and possibly answer the charges against him.

That it has been seen fit to not allow him bail will be based on evidence collected not assumptions.

Baggs Fri 10-May-19 15:31:23

in court

nanaK54 Fri 10-May-19 15:38:34

He wouldn't climb down out of a tree when he was arrested - I would have got him down with a taser.....

nanaK54 Fri 10-May-19 15:39:59

21 people are able to identify him, what are the chances that he is innocent?

Nonnie Fri 10-May-19 15:49:01

I was thinking the same as vissos.

I suspect he is guilty but really some of the suggestions above are pretty horrible if serious. Surely he should be tried for his crimes in a dignified way? What have we become if we think it is OK to treat someone in this way? What does it say about us?

Iam64 Fri 10-May-19 15:50:06

Legally, the defendant has to be present before s/he can be committed for trial. The judge decided to take the court to the hospital wing where McCann is held. She confirmed he has ‘medical’ issues and dealt with the applications before her.
I share the frustration that a man charged with such serious offences appears to have called the shots but I’m relieved the matter was dealt with rather than adjourned. I’m sure discussions will be taking place about best management in future.
I don’t share the belief he should have been dragged by his hair or penis. It isn’t about being soft on crime, it’s about living in a country that has proper legal channels we can all trust in. I remember a number of posters saying that where allegations of sexual assault are made, the names of alleged perpetrators shouldn’t be publicised. I disagree with that argument as well. I’m pleased McCann is named

FlexibleFriend Fri 10-May-19 15:51:28

I don't get it, why go to his cell when the court is right next door and linked by a tunnel, just frogmarch him into court.

NanKate Fri 10-May-19 16:10:20

If someone gave me a gun I would happily shoot him.

How much is it going to cost the tax payer to keep him in prison for years ? What a waste of money.

Telly Fri 10-May-19 16:44:02

Innocent until proven guilty in this country. However, yes, he should have been taken to court. It's not optional.