To side with teacher over dd?

I personally think to make a small child stand up all afternoon is a bit harsh in my view.I comply agree that his behaviour needed to be addressed in a firm way but, surely as an experienced teacher she could have thought of a better sanction than this.

I will dig this hole for as long as I want to.

But actually I'm going out.

So I will leave you righteous little holier-than-thou saints to it. or should that be "bullies"?

What business exactly is it of yours who I call a right cow, so long as it isn't you?

Gonegirl perhaps if you had a little more sensitivity you would realise that for many years those in the teaching profession behaved with great diplomacy to parents who regarded any disciplining of their child as unacceptable but expected the teacher they were undermining to ensure their child received a good education. Released from the confines of the profession and able now to say it as it is they will jump at the chance of telling someone who considers any teacher a "right cow" exactly how they feel.
And when you're in a hole stop digging!

You call a person who you do not know, on evidence you cannot verify, a right cow.
That is why a few members of Gransnet 'descend on you.'

I've only just caught up with this thread and I'm shocked to the core.

Not because a naughty boy was made to stand up when he refused to do as he was told but the revelation that maw got into trouble at school.

I, on the other hand

#easilyled

I called this teacher. one teacher (!) a right cow. And the whole of the teaching profession from the last fifty odd years apparently descends upon me!

Only on Gransnet.

Make him stand up for half an hour, yes. Not all the afternoon.

And don't give me that crap about concerts. He wouldn't be allowed in the standing area of concerts at that age.

So are we to assume gonegirl that you would call a teacher a 'right cow' if said child was injured? A 'right cow' for having disrupted the lesson for the remaining 25+ children who were behaving just to deal with one child who was failing to do as he was told? I think not. This was not about swinging on a chair, it was about disobeying the teacher after 3 times of asking. The other children are entitled to a calm learning environment, one child cannot be allowed to disrupt this.

And don't tell me about the "negativity" and "attacks from all sides". Told you why!

Actually, quite a few aren't!

Mostly.

Nor does it make them a "right cow" Gonegirl. Teachers are mostly people with a social comscience who think educating future generations is a good thing and endeavour to do so despite of the negativity and attacks they receive from all sides.

jura haven't a clue what you're on about.

Ok! That's enough! My daughter's a secondary school teacher. I know all about the workload, the stress etc.

Just because someone is a primary school teacher doesn't make them a saint.

Gonegirl, you are rather proving the point here...

Oh we all are Gonegirl that's why we do the job and spend hours planning, recording, assessing and reporting, because for the rest of the time we can be "right cows" to the children we spend our lives caring for. (Incidently the children who might judge me a "right cow" were the ones I pulled up for bullying, messing about or otherwise causing disruption to those who were trying to learn or play . Perhaps your experiences say more about you than the teachers you encountered?)

It's quite right to be cautious about children swinging back on chairs. A friend's child did that, toppled over backwards and broke her neck in two places.

Thankfully she didn't suffer any long term damage but the very thought makes the blood run cold.

I'm sorry, but I've come up against some primary school teachers who were just that. And I think this one might be.

HurdyGurdy phew! I was a bit worried but never taught in Bedfordshire. Mostly Yorkshire and N, East apart from short period in Essex. Accident was in N.East. I reckon those radiators were lethal. They could also get boiling hot if the caretaker decided to turn the heating up!!!

Hear, hear, Trisher!
I too witnessed a similar incident.

As for the teacher being a right cow, Gonegirl, we don't know the full story, so a bit unfair to call her that, without knowing all the facts.

On induction days I used to tell parents that I would only believe half of what their children told me about incidents at home if they did the same about school!??

trisher - "Child was about 7 kept tipping chair, was warned but didn't stop, chair slipped, he hit his head on one of those old fashioned rradiators with ridges. Lost consciousness and had a large split which bled profusely (as head wounds tend to) ambulance sent for and child taken to A&E, needed stitches"

I swear you were my son's teacher - right down to the old fashioned radiator lol

You didn't teach in Bedfordshire, did you?

It happened Gonegirl many years ago admittedly and before they imposed such drastic health and safety regulations. Child was about 7 kept tipping chair, was warned but didn't stop, chair slipped, he hit his head on one of those old fashioned rradiators with ridges. Lost consciousness and had a large split which bled profusely (as head wounds tend to) ambulance sent for and child taken to A&E, needed stitches. So you may find it funny, but as a teacher with just a few years experience, it was a terrifying experience and one which very much formed my attitude to kids who tipped their chairs. And as I said I'd rather be a "real cow" than ever have had to go through it again. God knows what would happen now, then, thank goodness, parents were more understanding and didn't blame everything on teachers.

You might be catastrophising a bit there trisher.