Greta Thunberg, Amazing or not.?

With all due respect Alexa she is not "a little girl" she is a young woman .

My eldest DGD is 13 and whilst she is tiny in size I wouldn't describe even her as a little girl.

I was quite concerned for her when I saw her on tv the other evening, clearly she was quite distraught, I'm a bit on the fence with the whole media circus surrounding the phenomenon that is Greta Thunberg, I've sympathy with her and her peer group who follow her, but are they committed enough to turn down holidays that involve flights, gap years etc. What I dislike is the whole shenanigans that surround conferencing, people old enough to know better, engaged in such staged posturing, the Google debacle being the worst example. We don't need Harry and the like saying "we could all do better" No Harry! you and your mates could, most ordinary people do what they can and aren't flying round the world in the casual way sanctimonious privileged hypocrites do. Ordinary people jump on public transport to get to and from work. Anyway it's all been said before but do they get it, I doubt it, removed from reality as they are.

Your post Lemongrove provided some clarification and insight into GT's state of mind.

Alexa, it is her parents responsibility to cherish her, and not put her on the world stage to the detriment of her mental health.

Greta Thunberg was in the right place at the right time, she could not have accomplished what she has done if she had not been autistic. She has that special talent.

True, she is a little girl and it's the responsibility of all good adults everywhere to cherish her and her chosen work for mankind .

Lemongrove and& Grannygravy, your input on the behaviour of children like her and on her, herself, is so helpful and confirms my own more limited experience of such people.

gillybob thank you for your informed input as well. having poured water on so many of the simple miracle calls to global warming (electric cars and their batteries, wind turbines etc) several posters think I am a non-believer or resigned to doom.

But I am neither, but I think the biggest obstacle to solving global warming is thinking it can be cured by simple measures, making all our cars electric or building lots of wind farms. It can't. Both solutions pose as many problems as they solve and what is needed is someone somewhere to try and look at the broader picture and publish it, with assessments of which solutions are workable and which are not.

The very fact that a young girl's speech can whip up so many conflicting emotions such as excitement, adoration, mockery, hatred, ridicule etc. just goes to show how she is being manipulated. I have a problem with children being used and exploited in any way in the media and this also includes some TV programmes where their views and idiosyncrasies are displayed for "entertainment". Somewhere along the line the parents need to take responsibility and put a stop to it.

No, I don’t think she’s amazing and Riverwalk I completely agree with you.

lemongrove, how I agree with you!

I'm afraid I've taken very little notice of this young girl and her exploits. Being interested and active in a movement is to be commended - lots of young people do good things but she's getting far too much publicity for her own good.

If I were her parents I'd withdraw her from the world stage.

I hope the media soon tire of reporting her every move.

My DH and another guy from our company attended a seminar about the batteries used in Electric vehicles and they are most definitely not clean ( or indeed safe ) one of the biggest concerns was what to do with them once they have run out ?

Yes you and me alike grapefruitpip

I don't find her amazing and having read your post Lemongrove I find myself genuinely worried for her and the long term affects this publicity will have on her future.

Her passion and her youth are being exploited IMO.

Excellent post there Absent.

gilly, sorry dear, having trouble keeping up these days.

Katek thank you for posting about the use of cobalt. I agree this is a big fly in the ointment. Something that definitely needs to be worked on.

I found this article very interesting

I hope the manufacturers can come up with answers.

Thank you again.

For which I have previously apologised .grapefruitpip do keep up dear .

Greta Thunberg, Amazing or not.?
No.
Clever , articulate, opinionated, but also totally inexperienced, unbalanced due to the nature of her condition, and extremely rude.
Also dangerous, in exhorting children to miss their lessons, and trade unionists to walk out of work.
Good for President Macron to challenge her.

Poor kid being called a weirdo.

Lemongrove as we also have a "high functioning" GC, I totally agree with your post.

I have nothing against GT, but in my opinion she is being pushed by her parents, so far in her young life she has had periods of being a selective mute, periods of refusing food and mental health issues. If she was my D I would be nurturing her at home, not thrusting her out into the world when she is vulnerable.

The catastrophising language she is using is frightening youngsters.

No, she isn’t ‘amazing’ at all. She is a child with high functioning autism with a typically autistic bee in her bonnet,it happens to be climate change but could just as equally be any other subject.Sometimes bees in bonnets can be good things for change, but in an autistic person ( at this level, and such ‘fame’) going on, it could also be bad for her.
A neuro-typical girl would understand that changes can’t take place quickly on climate change for many countries and would probably he happy to have got her message so talked about, but an autistic mind doesn’t work that way.It could
easily give way to depression.She looks very young (many do)
And although intelligent will also lack emotional maturity, and could be years behind her peers.Some would say it is a black and white subject, but it really isn’t when dealing with the realities of change.
Living with a high functioning autistic young teenager in the family I understand all too well how they think, and know that their intelligent ( almost arrogant) way of thinking can lead to anxiety and despair very easily.

What a spiteful thread this has become
I think she is pretty remarkable to be able to stand up and talk before millions
I think she is knowledgable, well as knowledgable as anyone can be about an unknown situation
Is she passionate and has clear beliefs yes very much so
Do I think she’s stealing other kids happiness definitely NOT
those that care will take notice the majority will carry on as normal playing wasting and destroying
Will she save the world ...unfortunately not but perhaps if she makes the next generation, our grandkids, more thoughtful about their surroundings she will have achieved something
Do I worry about her mental health and life in general yes I think she is too involved for a child and maybe being exploited

I think she is passionate about the cause but can't help thinking she is be used by adults with a hidden agenda. I wasn't aware she was autistic in which case I feel even more concerned for her.

Okay so upon reflection my use of the word “weirdo” might be a bit unkind and I apologise for that, but I make no apologies for the fact that I think she is becoming like a kind of CC grim reaper determined to steal the happiness from other ordinary children.

I'm going to say it again; she has autism . She is displaying lots of the traits of a high functioning autist. She is obsessed; she is single minded;intense focus on one subject; she will not listen to any point of view apart from her own; she gets angry when ignored or when people make points she disagrees with; difficulties with responding in social situations ( hence the anger at Trump) , she can't regulate emotions; really she is being driven by her autism.
For those unfamiliar with high functioning autism I am sure she comes across as being passionate in her beliefs, you might admire her because you agree with her and think she is doing a great job. But for those of us who live with them we see all of the above and feel sorry for her. She is likely to become mentally ill, ( depression, acute anxiety) and then what? There have been lots of people in history who displayed the characteristics of autism , most were extremely unhappy in adulthood . Do you want that for this young person?
No, the leave the cause to others Greta and get back to being a child.

used and abused, single track mind manipulated by adults. She has no childhood and will never grow up to be a normal person and might well end up in an institution. I feel very sorry for that automaton of a child