Empathy for Our Queen? ( As a Mother)

I have a sympathy for the Queen.We can't control what our adult children do.However at the present time I have more sympathy for Charles.DH has done some voluntary work with the Princes Trust and my respect for the issues Charles has campaigned for over the years has grown.Yes his interview at the time of his estrangement from Diana did him no favours but his 'crime' really was to be in love with the wrong woman as far as the firm was concerned.And I always found Diana to be rather disingenuous regarding the way she used the press when it suited her.In fairness to her the marriage was a disaster in the making,and she was far too young.
Regardless of how truly guilty Andrew is I think he should retire completely,and there should be a new slimmed down monarchy with Charles taking over before he's much older .I'd rather that than a republic with goodness knows who eg .a Tony Blair or Boris type in the palace and as our figurehead.

And you know how annie that some mothers find it easy to shun their children?

Thing is, if it did turn out Andrew was using Epstein's services and not just being his friend, and he was an ordinary person, that would be the end of the Queen's big family xmases unless she did shun him, cos the social services would probably make that a condition of her having her great grandchildren there. I am not alleging anything you understand, just aware that there are enquiries yet to be undergone. What the real point I am making is, many mothers are forced to choose between some of their children and others for legal reasons. But if the worst comes to the worst she might have to adjust her position or herself bow out of public life.

We are talking about HM not any mother supporting PA in public.

Suppose some mothers find it easy to shun their child whilst some mothers stand by their child without approving of their actions.

Fortunately in the U.K. a person is innocent until proven guilty by a judge & jury, not by the media & internet trolls. Our queen is a lovely lady who loves her children & am sure she is distressed at this furore.

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Well really private then.

She'd have to temper her language then!

There were four of them riding out. The Queen, PA, a blond lady and possibly a groom.

Don’t buy that I really don’t. But tbf no one knows for sure I suppose but it sounds highly unlike.y that she can’t have a private conversation anywhere at all on all the royal and private estates at her disposal?

I don't think that is true, suziewoozie; walls and doors have ears and the only place to have a private conversation would be in the countryside, just the two of them, with only the horses to listen in.

Framilode perhaps she was giving him a regal bollocking out of earshot of everyone.

Readymeals that was a fairly comprehensive update, thank you

You forgot to mention the heir to the throne and his wife doing their duty in New Zealand; their hosts are doing an excellent job and C & C look as if they're enjoying themselves and being given a real New Zealand welcome.

I do enjoy a Maori haka

HM has hundreds of doors behind which she can offer support to PA. By choosing deliberately to be photographed with him is her sending a very clear message to all abused and exploited girls and young women. In public she’s the queen and should behave as if she cares about the nation. In private it’s her choice.

No I can understand the Queen wanting to offer some emotional and social support to her son no matter what he's done. But she is also The Queen not just a mother. It could really be time for her to consider retiring with her husband and beginning to lead a private life where she can just be herself and not have to worry about what The Public think. I believe at this point Prince Charles has all the personal authority he needs to become Prince Regent.

Oh that, right

Anniebach -

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Meme - not “me me” (it’s all about me)

HM has no shame - she’s no longer fit for purpose.

Ready there are facts and what someone just made up.

OR a right Royal Ear Bashing!

Suzie we don't know for sure I agree; you can assume that most of what any of us say about the royals is only second hand via journalists. Otherwise we'd not be able to discuss anything in the news at all.

Prince Andrew has been photographed out riding with the Queen today. She must have known they would be photographed so I think we can take that as a show of support for him.

We don’t know who’s contacting who though do we? We know there’s spin, PR, MegHan hatred, those on GN who post as though they have a hotline to BP but we know for sure that PA is a bloody disgrace

True, Suzie, but my point is that they're still going to have negative feelings about it and some degree of stress. This could be an opportunity for Harry to contact his cousins and offer some empathy. It might be a start to getting close to the family again.