to think the length of time UK friends have to wait for funeral is cruel

Where I live, in ne Spain, its 48 hours for funeral. Any longer you need special permission and embarment. It's quite usual to have the funeral the day after the death.

My Brother died over in Ireland.they bury/ cremate over there on the 3 rd day.( we his family brothers/ sisters ect ) Did Not know this No one told us either. So when my Brother passed we were left dangling trying to come to terms with his death and how to get over to Ireland for his funeral. Although we all knew he wanted to be buried with his late wife here in Cleethorpes. We were informed about the funeral and burial with 1 day to try to organise flowers ferry times ect. Unfortunately for us all no flowered or anyone of his family attended his funeral. We all feel bitter about this and it seems like unfinished

My two family members were cremated. One was in around 9 days, and the other 2 weeks.

Also attended two cremations this year, and both of those were a two week wait, although their relatives were given a choice of dates.

POGS I responded to you yesterday at 17.59.03

for cremation notanan2

Waits for burials would also be getting longer, rather than static at around two weeks.

OP surely if there was a "shortage of facilities" they would need to bury people quicker to free up mortuary space!

Your conclusion makes no logistical sense. Please explain how facilities holding deceased for longer proves a lack of capacity? It's illogical.

I think this thread has shown very clearly that the OP was misguided and that it has got far more to do with custom and tradition and what we prefer, than the provision of facilties.

Muslims are meant to be buried within 24 hours, but I think most of us have no more desire to emulate them than we have to emulate the Swiss 5 day deadline.

Jura

I remain intrigued by your OP accusations and feeling the UK ' is cruel' and a shortage of facilities is ' responsible'.

I will repeat my question:-

'You have started a thread about the UK v Switzerland but what is your evidence that there is a shortage of facilities which in turn ' is responsible' for a funeral to take place?

Simple enough - they use the casket to take body to burial or cremation, wrapped in sheet inside- then take body out last minute and bury or cremate without. Great idea.

BlueBelle Fri 20-Dec-19 16:47:38
I ve just seen an advert for second hand caskets How’s does that happen??

The mind boggles!

Monica I saw a wicker one on line fir £200 but honest if I had my way cardboard box would do fine or just wrapped in a sheet suit me fine don’t like the thought of being nailed in I d rather have a lift off lid ???

We waited 2 weeks to bury my Mum. I didn't think it was cruel at all. We used that time to clear her house, come to terms with her death and plan a funeral that truly reflected her character. I felt I needed those 2 weeks and wouldn't have wanted her funeral to take place any earlier.

I ve just seen an advert for second hand caskets How’s does that happen ??

In Northern Ireland funerals take place within 2 or 3 days of death.

There is a very good and obvious reason why funerals in countries rather warmer than the UK, have traditionally been carried out very quickly.

On a black comedy note, shortly after they bought their house in France, my brother and SiL were invited for drinks to a neighbour's house in their hamlet.

At least, they thought it was for drinks! Once inside they were confronted by an open coffin on the dining table, with the woman's newly deceased husband lying peacefully inside.

Brother and Sil spoke pretty good French, so how the misunderstanding happened we will never know. The neighbour was a funny old thing who used to drive one of those funny little 'cars' you didn't then need a licence for.

I'm afraid to say that after that, my brother (who would invariably have been kind and charming to her in person) referred to her as The Widow Twanky.

In Portugal the funeral is usually the next day or within 48 hours. A few weeks ago my Portuguese friend's niece died in Luxembourg from cancer and her funeral was here 4 days later. Cremation is fairly new here and when we first moved here there were only 3 crematoria for the whole country. When my Mum died 5 years ago I knew none of the family would fly over for a funeral so she was cremated 2 days later. It was delayed by a day because the doctor writing the death certificate wrote my fathers name George the PT way (Jorge) which made it invalid. I had written all their names out in full for her too. What l did was arrange a service of rememberance for her in England 4 months later. I expect my husband will just arrange a cremation for me with just him and my son and daughter in law who live here. Whether the other AC will do anything about my passing I don't know.

Water cremations are eco friendly, they use chemicals to disolve the body then nutralise the solition so that is can safely be drained away.

Not popular or widespread or cheap yet!

At least with a non eco friendly cremation, it'll just be me'n'my bag! Not a coffin burning as well. So I like to think that that's a little better for the environment.

Green forest burrials in my region are crazy expensive

We did dads on the fourth day. It was then or wait two weeks and Mum didnt want to wait (this was a few years ago, two weeks is average now in our area).
From the practical point of view it was way too soon to try tonget people notified and everything done.

There are direct disposal companies all over England. Not all are equal like any business so shop around.
Dont know about rest of UK or abroad as have only looked into it here.

Your family can have time with the bodies at the hospital's chapels of rest if you dont die at home. Funeral homes/funeral directors are unecessary.

From the mortuary you can go in your body bag for direct cremation. Skipping the funeral home all together.

Then your family can be there (or not) at the time you are being cremated but there's no service or curtain bit so no need for a coffin.

Then if they want to, in their own time and to their own budget, they can have a memorial celebration.

Beware, high street funeral homes can mislead people into thinking this option doesnt exist so that they can sell their "basic" coffin packages.

Must make enquiries- not sure this is possible where I live. Thanks.

If I could afford/source a water cremation I would have that, but I dont want to cost my family money after my death (unless we're all rich by then)

Nor me.
I've always been frugal, so I don't expect being dead will change me.

I'm not having a coffin at all. They're not necessary for direct cremations

btw, some coffins are unsuitable for cremations but OK for burials (and, possibly, vice versa). Those wishing to economise can have four handles, instead of six!