AIBU to be fed up with some posters who cannot accept others have different opinions?

It is Tuesday somewhere in the world.

But we aren't talking of belittling or berating are we - we are talking about posing an alternate viewpoint and maybe calling out offensive remarks- when the offensive remark might be someones "view". So what the OP wants is to say something which others find offensive but not be challenged because its her "view".

The agenda of the OP is nothing to do with opinions - it’s about posting opinions based on totally false information. It’s not a valid opinion that today is Tuesday <sigh>

Hahahaha, Gruffalo in our house.

Some people do just enjoy an argument. And I suspect that there are a just a few whose reasons for joining forums include the ability to have a safe, anonymous go at other people.

I’m reminded of that little cartoon - wish I could post it here! of someone bent over a screen, someone else saying ‘Aren’t you coming to bed?’
‘I can’t! Someone is wrong on the internet!’

GagaJo

And Peppa Pig

You are spot on aprilrose! Some seem to think GN is their personal platform to belittle, criticise and generally berate others!

Yes, we all have a different point of view, it's what makes us individuals but why do folk have to be rude and cruel?????

Good old Oscar.

annodomini you're right and those who want to take the middle ground are accused of either being to the extreme left or, more often, the extreme right and pushed into the gutter!!

When you're in the gutter, some of us look up at the stars
And realise how insignificant this all is.

I believe that you will never be able to change someone’s views if you are rude. By all means point out total inaccuracies but do not hurl insults. You just make people more entrenched.

Grammaretto
Wise words

Deep breath and count to ten
Or, as in a book I am reading, say
Jabberwocky, Jabberwocky, Jabberwocky under your breath and keep quiet!

I've been around long enough to know that I will never change the views of anyone who radically disagrees with me, so I don't bother with political or religious threads. What would be the point of starting a hare? As a local politician, I was pretty good at finding and establishing the middle ground, but from what I can gather from occasional forays into political threads, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground on Gransnet.

I think there are clear ‘rules’ for behaviour on certain threads such as Bereavement and Relationships and it seems they are very rarely breached. There are other threads where it’s irrelevant such as the Games threads. There are threads that, whilst I looked at when I first joined, are not for me in the sense that they are not what I joined for? They meet an important need for people and are clearly an important support for some. I wouldn’t dream of going on them and making sarcastic or sneery comments. There are threads where people want factual information - I’m astonished at how often posters offer incorrect information on these threads without bothering to check. When I post on these threads my information is verified -I point out the mistakes. I have to say I think it’s very irresponsible to give false information on threads like this - I’ve seen posters getting upset when tge facts with a link is all that is needed.

And finally, there’s the political threads which is what this is really all about. As vegan says there are a variety of ways in which people are not particularly nice on these threads. Tge other day , for once, we had an amusing lighthearted politics thread. People across the board joined in and then aprilrose came on and was very critical of our fun because we were being childish. Then another example, I started a thread on the H of Lords following the report on its increase in spending. Within a few threads, a right winger comes on with a snide comment about my having nothing better to worry about accompanied by the sad face. That type of comment is not uncommon on political threads but often passes under the radar of being judged rude and insulting ( which in fact is).

Oh dear, I didn't get the context either.?

Maybe I should just give up GN?

Oh, give over you're hardly a delicate wallflower who's being got at!

I always give a little chuckle when a poster asks this - it's entirely up to you, your choice.

Civilised reasoned debate is a good thing but I too have been put off Gransnet even though I have been here from the early days. I juts disappear when it all gets nasty and preachy. I come back every now and then because there are some very nice people on here.

Suzie, but we can keep that for the posts where she is disagreeing wildly.

We can all be reformed OR make an effort.

If a kid at school has been an a**e and genuinely apologises, as far as I'm concerned, that is it, over and done. Move on. Life's easier that way.

Oh dear suziewoozie you really have no idea. Pretty much everything about you is in your genes

Nothing particularly rude here, just sarcastic and untrue.

Gag april s post is not about the wider issues. She’s frankly just in a strop about yesterday and wants a hug. To get the hug she is being unfair about other posters. Read the tone of her posts is general - far from pleasant. Heat and kitchen come to mind. No one starts a thread like this without an agenda.

I’ve just found that mostly, I don’t get responses. Sometimes I’ve had people agree, but mostly they either ignore or disagree. I don’t mind that, because I’m really just responding to the OP, with my thoughts. If people disagree, that’s their prerogative. Occasionally, certainly on the Spiritual forums, I may enter into a discussion, but only if it’s pleasant. I stop if it starts getting acrimonious. I’m always fascinated by the diversity of people’s opinions.

Grey absolutely - and your last sentence is spot on. Some posters have that off to perfection. Posters piling on on this thread are probably unaware of the context. It’s like the wide eyed innocent child who comes running to mummy ‘ Charlie hit me and stole my sweets’. Perhaps better check what he’d done to Charlie first.

I didn't realise there was an underlying reason for the OP's question. I took the OP's post at face value and answered on the basis of that.
That's why I stay away from the political threads!

However, I do get annoyed at people who post nasty comments on gentle threads, which are trundling along quite nicely. Recently there was a nasty dig at someone on a bereavement thread, I was so glad to see it deleted, as it was so unnecessary.

I take your point, Suzie, about facts. They are immutable.

I also agree with Vegan. Disagreement isn't an insult. LIFE is about debate and compromise.

BUT what isn't acceptable is insulting others.

There are right wing posters on here that in the political forums, I will argue with (MY choice if I do or not) until I'm blue in the face. In OTHER forums, I put politics aside and talk about whatever the topic is with them.

Online is not that different to RL. Are there people in RL that I think are vile racist/bigots/sexist/right-wing that I talk to politely on a daily basis? Yes. Do I like them or have them as friends? No. BUT if I work with them or live near them, I have to tolerate them. Same on here. I may despise someone for their belief system, but if we're talking about what we had for breakfast, polite and civilized rule OK.

Oh come off it OP. You had a bit of a day yesterday, saying some unsubstantiated things and you have started going on about Corbyn this morning.

Not everything and everybody is binary. Many people are not keen on BJ and not keen on Corbyn. It's been flogged to death.

Regarding being polite, it is possible to have a veneer of politeness and be very unpleasant, smug and cliquey underneath.

X posts vegan - agree about giving examples. M