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Neighbour has Grandson with her on Easter Sunday .

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3nanny6 Sun 12-Apr-20 13:11:30

Am I an unreasonable neighbour to feel I am in the wrong for not wanting my daughter and children at my home on Easter day. (My daughter would not bring her children at the moment anyway)
The reason I ask is because my next door neighbour is outside talking to another neighbour whilst at the same time kissing and holding her two and a half year old grandson. The neighbours son (father of the child) does not even live next door so he has brought the child to see his grand-mother. I admit to feeling envious as yesterday when I took
my GC some Easter eggs I had to be thankful for a wave from the window. The neighbours GC is one week younger than my GC and when they were going to be born we would speculate which mother would give birth first.
They have gone in her house now and the childs mother has arrived as well so looks like they are all going to have lunch together. I know it is unreasonable to feel envious but I do.

Callistemon Thu 16-Apr-20 22:09:40

It has been explained in the news media time and again, Gran52.

However, Sweden is trying a different strategy, ie no lockdown, so it will be interesting to see what happens there.

SirChenjin Thu 16-Apr-20 21:46:26

The virus won’t go through the whole population and social distancing will slow it down, reduce the numbers infected and maintain capacity within the health service. This has been made very clear for weeks now.

Gran52 Thu 16-Apr-20 21:24:13

A virus will undoubtedly just go right through the population despite best efforts at social distancing..... the question is why have we really been asked to social distance?

Smileless2012 Wed 15-Apr-20 17:37:52

smile for the image you posted and your "verbal diarrhoea" icanhandthembackgrin.

MissAdventure Wed 15-Apr-20 09:34:06

My neighbour just got on the bus with her son.

They're travelling ten miles to go to her other sons for dinner, but will be calling in to see her daughter as well.

Kittymae Tue 14-Apr-20 17:49:20

This really annoys me as I'm confirming to lockdown but my dd and bf who lives with me and has a baby went to his parents on Easter Sunday, came back and told me and acted like I was in the wrong for getting upset! I understand why they did it but it isn't our judgement call to make, we not scientist or medics, we only know what the government wants to tell us

icanhandthemback Tue 14-Apr-20 11:18:40

Sorry, image is at the top, not following my verbal diarrhoea!

icanhandthemback Tue 14-Apr-20 11:17:50

I stand by my statement that we shouldn't be ringing the police about these infringements although if it is a huge gathering I think I would. If you feel you must inform somebody (I get that it is infuriating if you are one of the people who is conforming like me) then check your police website/social media pages and inform them that way. Ringing them clogs up the system and doesn't help the police to do their job.
I live 3 doors from my mother and the other day I heard her shouting my name. I was concerned that she had fallen but she was just wanting to attract my attention. I stood at the gate and asked if she was alright before pointing out that I was in the middle of doing something and would ring her later. She followed me up the road. She sat in my front garden on her walker and chatted for 10 minutes whilst I stood inside my van many metres away. Eventually I said I wanted to go eat my lunch so would see her home. She walked in front, I followed behind, again several meters behind until she got to her front door. I watched her go in and went home. I desperately wanted to say, "Go away," but at 78 she would be very hurt. I've been social distancing, so has she. She didn't touch anything of mine, I didn't touch anything of hers and any instruction to do anything is a waste of time because she is PDA. To clarify, neither of us has been out of our properties for at least a fortnight. I stopped going out before lockdown and so did she but I did have an urgent hospital appointment during lockdown which was over a fortnight ago.
Had anybody called the police, it would have been a complete waste of their time because within 24 hours she probably wouldn't even remember what she'd done.
Should we be vilified? I don't think so. I am more than happy to act in the spirit of the lockdown and I want people to do so too but I think the following is very useful in order to avoid considerable personal stress (copyright to
Made with my own lilywhite hand)s:

Silverlady333 Tue 14-Apr-20 10:38:55

What's the difference between social distancing in the street and social distancing in a garden? We have a communal garden. We sit outside and chat to our neighbours who share the garden. We sit at least 2m apart....

The trouble is someone sees somebody else doing something like this and they they think oh if they are doing that then I can do it and so it escalates.
Not every family sitting in the garden with extended family or friends is going to sit there with masks on or not touch anything are they.
Vegan is spot on!

SirChenjin Tue 14-Apr-20 10:24:51

Vegan’s last post explains it. If you all have your own seat and don’t share anything or touch the same surfaces then you’re probably OK, but anything beyond that must be avoided.

vampirequeen Tue 14-Apr-20 10:22:10

What's the difference between social distancing in the street and social distancing in a garden? We have a communal garden. We sit outside and chat to our neighbours who share the garden. We sit at least 2m apart.

What's the difference between dropping off groceries and standing 2m from the doorstep for a chat and standing in the garden waving through the window?

As long as the distances are kept there is no more risk than walking in the street and probably less then being in a supermarket.

harrigran Tue 14-Apr-20 09:43:33

I am amazed at some people, their idea of lockdown is not mine.
I have not seen anybody since the last week of February, see and talk to the family on Skype.

SirChenjin Tue 14-Apr-20 07:44:30

vegan - excellent points. Can I also add no unnecessary car journeys which could potentially require breakdown assistance or the emergency services? Every single unnecessary journey increases the risk of that happening.

vegansrock Tue 14-Apr-20 05:40:32

The rules are do not meet up with others who are not in your household even other family members. That includes sitting together in your garden for the afternoon. Waving from a window after someone dropped off the shopping is one thing, organising a garden meet up is another. It maybe that Valerie did not make any drinks or food for her “guests” and they didn’t enter the house to use the loo, they all wore gloves and masks and washed their hands immediately before and after entering the garden, and they were never within 3 meters of each other, but the point is, if everyone thought it was ok to organise a family garden get together, we all know before long there would be bbqs, drinking, kids playing together etc. That’s why it’s a blanket rule.

whywhywhy Tue 14-Apr-20 02:56:23

We have neighbours who have seen their grand children all weekend and it makes me so mad. The news is so scary yet they carry on like this. My mam would say “Hell mend them” .

Summerlove Tue 14-Apr-20 02:43:16

To be fair to FunOma the rules are very likely very different In Colorado. Is it best practice? No, we we don’t know that it’s against the laws there.

No different that so many in the UK out for one last weekend because lockdown didn’t start til Monday (though, I thought that was foolish as a virus doesn’t know dates, it was still legal)

Skweek and Valerie though, I think you’re both pushing the line by a lot

Sussexborn Tue 14-Apr-20 00:54:40

I feel calmer today not having to listen to the partying next door. The granddaughter was really yelling and laying in to anyone and everyone including her Dad and grandma. I assumed she was about 8/9. OH saw them playing out at the front and said she’s about 4 and dominating the family already.

Hithere Tue 14-Apr-20 00:25:48

Tyler

Your dd may insist all she wants but you can decide whatever you think it is best for you.

Tylerbenjamin Mon 13-Apr-20 23:44:24

My daughter is insisting i have my Granddaughter to stay with me i am 60 suffering from hypertension flu jab yearly and a hole in the heart and heart murmur worried Granny

Hithere Mon 13-Apr-20 23:35:36

Sawsage2
I agree

Hawera1 Mon 13-Apr-20 23:18:45

We are all missing grandchildren and families. I have friends who too and fro between houses. But we just have to ignore it and know we are playing by the rules. Let our inner values comfort us through this. You are not alone in this.

Silverlady333 Mon 13-Apr-20 23:06:19

Thought this might be interesting

2020 Covid-19 deaths in UK = 11,393.

2016 -2019 (3 year period) UK Cancer deaths (Cancer Research statistics) = 163,444, or average 54,471 per year.

2017 Heart and Circulatory Disease deaths (British Heart Foundation statistics) = 607,172 *

and because of the Corona Virus many families will not be able to be there at the end of their family members life nor friends be able to attend funerals!
My sister lost her dearest and life long friend about 2 weeks ago, (not to Covid 19) She cannot attend her friends funeral or comfort her friends daughter and she is distraught.
Until it touches them personally some people will continue to flout the social distancing law.

SirChenjin Mon 13-Apr-20 22:46:00

Covertly and overtly - the virus travels by stupid and it’s why many more thousands will die and why this lockdown (such as it, as shown by the numerous examples on here) will continue for some time yet. It’s utterly maddening and depressing that people are so ignorant, selfish and stupid.

Florida12 Mon 13-Apr-20 22:29:58

I do think it is covertly going on everywhere.
I have a good friend that allows her daughter’s boyfriend to visit at weekends, and my friend is a healthcare worker in a hospital!
I don’t comment, they know it is wrong.
There are some grey areas though, for example, the child of separated parents are allowed to stay at both households as and when. That is why I tend to bite my tongue on the subject. The government really needs to make clearer guidelines it’s all a bit up in the air really.

rosenoir Mon 13-Apr-20 22:06:03

I am not having any contact with my daughter and grandson because I love them. Any contact poses a risk.