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Neighbour has Grandson with her on Easter Sunday .

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3nanny6 Sun 12-Apr-20 13:11:30

Am I an unreasonable neighbour to feel I am in the wrong for not wanting my daughter and children at my home on Easter day. (My daughter would not bring her children at the moment anyway)
The reason I ask is because my next door neighbour is outside talking to another neighbour whilst at the same time kissing and holding her two and a half year old grandson. The neighbours son (father of the child) does not even live next door so he has brought the child to see his grand-mother. I admit to feeling envious as yesterday when I took
my GC some Easter eggs I had to be thankful for a wave from the window. The neighbours GC is one week younger than my GC and when they were going to be born we would speculate which mother would give birth first.
They have gone in her house now and the childs mother has arrived as well so looks like they are all going to have lunch together. I know it is unreasonable to feel envious but I do.

SirChenjin Mon 13-Apr-20 15:06:07

Are we chopping people’s heads off? My understanding was that police issue a warning or a fine to remind stupid people who haven’t yet grasped the information from the Govt, on social media, in the MSM and so on that their behaviour is incredibly dangerous and will ensure that this virus continues to spread and kill people.

So nothing like the French Revolution or les letters de cachet really.

Dinahmo Mon 13-Apr-20 14:58:29

It is very difficult when we see people doing stuff that they know they shouldn't. However, judging by some of the comments on here it wouldn't take very long to descend to the depths of the French revolution and the lettres de cachet. For those who don't knowe what they are, the French used to post pieces of papers with the names of people they wanted to report. Often for minor infringements, often people they just didn't like. Result was usually the same. Off with his head!

SirChenjin Mon 13-Apr-20 14:55:29

Our neighbour has his daughter and her four kids over today ? I’ve already phoned 101 today about some builders who are working on a very non essential building - I’m not going g to phone them again, tempting though it is. I’m sure the police are inundated with calls about stupid these days.

CherryCezzy Mon 13-Apr-20 14:49:54

Grannmarie that is brilliant.
On another note, is it being judgemental to be concerned about the actions of others? Are the actions of others something we are deeming unacceptable when we have no business concerning ourselves with what they do? Actions have consequences. Taking the example of my neighbour's ex. He picks up and takes out the children from 3 households. He lives in a fourth household. My neighbour then takes her girls with her when she does her grocery shopping. The parents (another neighbour) take their daughter ( who was also taken out with the girls) grocery shopping. The ex does his own shopping and similarly, although a presumption, so do the parents of the cousin. Just how many people are these 4 households potentially exposing to the virus if they catch it? Is it judgemental to be concerned about the innocents who could succumb to this virus? Is their behaviour truly acceptable? We would not consider dangerous driving acceptable would we? Why, is that? The answer is simple, it endangers the lives of innocent human beings.

Coppernob Mon 13-Apr-20 14:45:38

My brother, who is over 70 and has Parkinson’s Disease, and his wife who is also over 70 moved house from the Southeast to the Midlands last week. I am still seething at them.

Silverlady333 Mon 13-Apr-20 14:25:22

My neighbours both in their 70's are not following the rules either. Both of their son's come to visit. Both work outdoors as gardeners so their mother thinks this is Ok (but they surely still have contact with their clients, receiving payment etc). I called over the fence to one of them and asked if he was trying to get his inheritance early. I have told their mother if she and her husband get the virus it is their own fault. One of the son's was there again yesterday all dressed up and had gone for his Easter Sunday lunch! As this son was leaving yesterday I was out watering my plants and I called to the father and said that his son's movements could be tracked via his mobile phone but he didn't respond. The mother still goes shopping with a scarf around her mouth! Her sons should be shopping for their parents and leaving it at the door. I get so mad as I have not seen my adult son's since Christmas. We were meant to be having a get together the week after Mother's day so that never happened. Some people just seem to think the rules do not apply to them and as other have said this is only going to continue the spread of this virus and the lock down will go on for longer. I too get very upset but I am afraid you can't cure stupid!

Grannmarie Mon 13-Apr-20 14:23:57

Keep it simple.

moggie57 Mon 13-Apr-20 14:05:11

you could report them? if that had been me i would have said something....its not fair on us that are in lockdown. next time she does it ring 101 and report her.

essjay Mon 13-Apr-20 13:57:16

my sister has a neighbour who has been having visitors constantly but what makes it worse is the fact that she is a care worker in a home.

grannymy Mon 13-Apr-20 13:50:02

It's people like that who are keeping this virus going. So very selfish.

blondenana Mon 13-Apr-20 13:48:52

Apart from my earlier post,about my sister, my grand daughter was asked to drive a friend to collect a puppy, her father was very angry with her, but as he lives in a different country could do nothing,and apart from that she is visiting friends, and they her,
Why do some of these young ones think it doesn't apply to them

Niucla97 Mon 13-Apr-20 13:47:54

It's so annoying, I also missed out on being with my family in fact haven't seen them for nearly a month . My daughter-in-law drops off anything I need about every seven to ten days...She rings me to tell me she's on her way and leaves it by the back gate.

Yet I have a very dear friend who is in poor health, her husband is vulnerable. her son has severe asthma , his wife is on the vulnerable list and they have a teenage son. They all enjoyed their Easter lunch together yesterday. They are carrying on as if life is normal. We ring each other regularly and I beg her to stay safe!!

One of my son's friends died a week ago in hospital from the virus. My daughter-in -law's boss died this morning from the virus which he contracted in hospital!! It really is frightening.

My son has me under'curfew.!'

Elegran Mon 13-Apr-20 13:43:53

It has been said again and again that this virus is very infectious and spreads very rapidly.

If someone who visited their granny for Easter Sunday had been in contact with someone during the previous week who themselves was a contact of someone who unknowingly has the virus, then they could be incubating it, and be infectious without being aware of it. THAT is how infectious it is, and that is how it whips round a community like a bushfire in a bone-dry Australian forest. BUT THOSE INFECTED DONT KNOW IT UNTIL THEY HAVE BEEN INFECTIOUS FOR A WEEK OR SO!

In a week's time, the figures that have started to show a modest decline will zoom up again, and a week or less after that the hospitals will see the increase in admissions of beloved grandparents whose old bodies can't cope.

The bereaved will be broken-hearted - and some will only remember their Easter visit as "the last time we saw her was . . " If they had stayed away, they could be continuing to see her - and the medical staff who nursed her at their own risk could have continued to be with their families uninfected!

EthelJ Mon 13-Apr-20 13:43:45

People like that who think they are invincible make me so angry I have not seen my children or grandchildren for weeks and it hurts. They are all obeying the social distancing rules. But my DD who works fir the NHS now has symptoms of the virus. People who float the rules are spreading the virus and have put my daughter and her very young children at risk.

Theoddbird Mon 13-Apr-20 13:43:21

I hear tales like this do often. You ate in the right and they are very very wrong. You could report them....

CrazyGrandma2 Mon 13-Apr-20 13:41:34

I saw this the other day and thought it was succinct and clever ....

The spread of Covid -19 is based on two factors:

1. How dense the population is

2. How dense the population is

3Nanny6 your neighbours fall into category 2 smile

bamwah Mon 13-Apr-20 13:38:10

It's so wrong and you shouldnt beat yourself up at feeling envious...I have to visit my 90 year old Mum daily...she lives nearby and needs me to administer eye drops and food...I dearly wish I didn't have to visit. Yesterday on my short drive home I saw my granddaughter walking her dog...we waved but I didn't stop and I cried when I got home.

Elegran Mon 13-Apr-20 13:36:46

ALANaV This is not a police state. If you had ever lived in one, you would think this is Freedom Hall!

In a society where everyone worked together to make a policy of keeping away from others so as to minimise the spread of this virus (a policy which was worked out in consultation with scientific advisors) it would not be necessary for those who refused to co-operate and just acted according to their own individual wishes to be shamed.

The opinmion of the majority of their neighbours and the rest of the population is that what they are doing is anti-social and dangerous, so of course people express that opinion by trying to make sure that they stop being so bloody-minded and selfish.

The ones who have broken the national isolation for their own indulgence chose to swim against the current and endanger, not only themselves, but the whole population.

H1954 Mon 13-Apr-20 13:21:35

You could be describing the road where I live! Someone had a visit from family all day on Saturday. The person they visited is over 70 and by that token alone falls into the vulnerable bracket!

The majority of us are keeping our distance, if family call to collect or deliver groceries etc bags are swapped very sensibly, but there's always one who thinks the advice just doesn't apply!

Beggars belief, will we ever conquer this virus?!?!

blondenana Mon 13-Apr-20 13:13:45

I had a call from my sister as i do most sundays or i ring her, and she said her daughter had been to cut her hair,i was quite shocked and told her i thought this was a mistake,as her daughter works in care home, her other daughter had also called, but she said they kept their distance
I did point out that she couldn't have got her hair cut at a distance so it was a silly thing to do, both on her part and her daughters
Also her next door neighbour comes in every night from 7 to about 9 to watch the soaps together
Again she thinks it's ok, because they see each other every day, but both go dog walking, not always together, so do see other people while out
Sometimes you just can't make people see sense

Nicolaed Mon 13-Apr-20 13:05:58

People are continuing to flout the rules by which 95% of people are living by and (I hate to quote the government slogan but I will) are staying indoors, saving lives, protecting the NHS. Unfortunately there is not, and will never be, a cure for stupidity!

ALANaV Mon 13-Apr-20 13:04:31

So sad when neighbours become part of the Police state ….its like we are being asked to spy on one another and report any movement WE deem unacceptable to the Police...…...in my view Sweden has the right approach rather than mass hysteria ! If you read a day on day death toll in the UK for the past few years you will see in winter many die from other causes ...sad but an inevitable part of life. I do worry about those who care for people with the virus ….care home workers, the NHS, delivery drivers, Police, fire service personnel etc etc and think it unbelievable they are not provided with the necessary PPE …..and that over 70's are being encouraged to sign DNAR forms ( already have one, so that's me sorted !) and that deaths in care homes are not counted ……..never thought I would live to see the day the once Great Britain became a Police state ….very sad

Maccyt1955 Mon 13-Apr-20 13:03:55

I also think this obsession with Zooming/FaceTiming your children/grandchildren all the time is over the top.
I absolutely understand it if you are alone/recently widowed etc, but why should the frequency of contact increase at this time?
I think it puts extra pressure on people. I am not ‘seeing’ my children or grandchildren any more than I did previously. It suits me fine. I know I am loved just as before.
I will probably get disapproving replies now!

GoldenAge Mon 13-Apr-20 13:01:42

We're being plagued by a virus which is nasty and indiscriminate, but simultaneously we have another virus in society and that's those people who somehow can't seem to heed government advice, think they're entitled, or have just switched off from the news. Whatever, these people are not thinking straight and the outcome will definitely be a spike in covid cases after their selfishness. We are all missing the cuddles from grandchildren and wider family but there are thousands of people missing the ability to say goodbye in the flesh to their dying relatives. Your neighbours are not only selfish but stupid 3nanny6 - I would find it difficult not to mention this at some point in the future.

weston Mon 13-Apr-20 12:59:36

On Easter Sunday morning I went down to sit in communal garden I live 3rd floor in a retirement development Visitors are not allowed inside building In the garden I saw to my amazement a small child looking for hidden Easter eggs with her Grandparents (residents) and her parents (visitors) I left immediately and went back to my flat They were in the garden for at least 3 hours I was disgusted