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Neighbour has Grandson with her on Easter Sunday .

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3nanny6 Sun 12-Apr-20 13:11:30

Am I an unreasonable neighbour to feel I am in the wrong for not wanting my daughter and children at my home on Easter day. (My daughter would not bring her children at the moment anyway)
The reason I ask is because my next door neighbour is outside talking to another neighbour whilst at the same time kissing and holding her two and a half year old grandson. The neighbours son (father of the child) does not even live next door so he has brought the child to see his grand-mother. I admit to feeling envious as yesterday when I took
my GC some Easter eggs I had to be thankful for a wave from the window. The neighbours GC is one week younger than my GC and when they were going to be born we would speculate which mother would give birth first.
They have gone in her house now and the childs mother has arrived as well so looks like they are all going to have lunch together. I know it is unreasonable to feel envious but I do.

etheltbags1 Mon 13-Apr-20 09:08:20

They are the same in our street. I have a neighbour with a child on chemo and a toddler and a 6 month old. I saw an older woman go in yesterday. This is especially dangerous in their situation. I hope the little girl is ok.

Pikachu Mon 13-Apr-20 08:58:55

Yes Monica & veganrock and others that is quite acceptable. My family too leave something on the doorstep then retreat to the end of the front garden while we have a little natter.

It is lovely to see them in the flesh not just on Alexa show. Good for our mental health and uplifts our spirit.

M0nica Mon 13-Apr-20 08:33:29

I think the ones who flout the rules, only see themselves as individuals. 'It doesn't matter if we visit. What difference does one visit make? And we won't go anywhere else'

They do not realise that they are not just one household, but, unfortunately, one of thousands of families, all thinking like that - and that is where the danger lies.

As vegansrock says, visiting ad keeping a distance is within the rules. My DGC visited their other Grandma yesterday. They stood at the road end of the front garden, about 10 metres from the house and unfurled a banner saying 'Happy Easter Grandma'. Grandma stood at the front door. There was a brief conversation and they went home. No contact was made and not even any parcels shared.

Sparkling Mon 13-Apr-20 08:04:37

Ignorant, selfish people. You are in the right. I think for some the message won't sink in until someone in their family gets it.

vegansrock Mon 13-Apr-20 07:49:43

ginny I’m not sure what is wrong with talking to someone who has delivered a parcel and keeps their distance? I don’t think the rules are not to talk to anyone? My DD drops off my shopping , she steps right back to her car and I say my thank yous / how are you through the window or doorway, at least 5 metres away. In my street a musician who has no teaching work, played her violin at the window and the neighbours stood in their doorways or windows and enjoyed a free “concert” , she got a huge round of applause, it was uplifting.

dinks13 Mon 13-Apr-20 07:44:10

Totally agree with you quizqueen. I really don’t understand why we are allowing flights to the other side of the world to pick them up then bring them back here??!!! Crazy.

kittylester Mon 13-Apr-20 07:34:25

Should we be reporting these people?

Two of our neighbours are flouting the rules. One neighbour has her daughter and grandchildren round every Saturday afternoon and hasn't stopped. And another neighbour drove to collect her brother and had him stay 2 nights and then drove him home.

They are perfectly nice reasonable people so what are they thinking?

Ginny42 Mon 13-Apr-20 07:22:22

It's happening here too and as it's a small group of houses, it's obvious that some families are having visits after placing parcels at the door, then retreat and speak from the kerb.

Other families have visitors arriving and going into the house.

What makes me angry is that after being so careless and selfish, should they become ill, someone has to put their lives in danger to nurse them.

I'm thinking there will be another spike in numbers about two weeks from now.

Blencathra Mon 13-Apr-20 07:02:44

It is very selfish behaviour and they simply shouldn’t be doing it. It upsets me that I can’t see either my very elderly mother or my very young grandchild but I wouldn’t take the risk.
I wouldn’t feel envious of the idiots who would put family at risk - it will be too late to get upset afterwards if they do get the virus.

Hithere Sun 12-Apr-20 23:45:38

Kalu

The problem is what people consider to be essential

You would be surprised what mental gymnastics you can read to justify something

Elrel Sun 12-Apr-20 23:44:07

My elderly neighbour’s family came today to see him for an Easter drink. He’s quite frail and doubtless lonely, I just hope neither he nor they suffer for their ill-advised get together.

Kalu Sun 12-Apr-20 23:40:04

How difficult is it for people not to understand that their selfish actions will cause more illness and put even more pressure on our exhausted NHS. Are these individuals under the illusion that their needs are more important somehow?

The strong message is there for all to easily understand:
Stay home unless your journey is essential and we are all well aware of which journies are being referred to?

BradfordLass73 Sun 12-Apr-20 23:26:13

There's one lady in our small street (she usually works full time) whose grandchildren visit regularly.

They all drive but they're certainly not delivering anything.

She's not isolated and, quite obviously, neither are they.

We are still at Level 4 here and the police are stopping people every now and then to ask where they're going and why.

Ironically, this lady normally works in a police station.

M0nica Sun 12-Apr-20 23:21:44

Don't feel envious, feel morally superior. You are following the regulations laid down and are not risking your health and life, nor that of your children and grandchildren. You care enough about your grandchildren to be prepared to do anything to protect them. Your next door neighbour and family are prepared to sacrifice their lives and health for a few brief hours together.

Congratulate yourself on your willingness to do anything to protect your family, As I said take the moral superiority route

Chestnut Sun 12-Apr-20 23:11:00

I absolutely despair at today's collection of photos showing huge crowds of people all over the country walking close together in parks and public places, plus a massive house party in Durham requiring two dozen officers and four paramedics. It seems so many people in this country just don't give a damn and are just making a mockery of all our sacrifices. Heartbreaking.

Smileless2012 Sun 12-Apr-20 21:20:37

We were sent a photograph the other day of a 21 year old WPC's arm showing a bite mark she'd been given by a young 'man' she'd stopped to talk too about observing the guidelines. I think it happened in the London area.

The police in our area are doing an amazing job too. We live in a very popular sea side town and it's been very quiet here. Car parks have been closed and any vehicle not showing a residents car permit is turned away.

Hazel731 Sun 12-Apr-20 21:01:47

Labaik well said. Thats 2 of us thats clapping our police service.

Labaik Sun 12-Apr-20 20:51:53

The police in my area are doing an amazing job. People complain when they eg tape up picnic benches but don't realise that when one family has gone another might sit there and get the virus from the table. They're being spat at and even, in one case, bitten. And all of this at a time when they're short of thousands of officers.

Greymar Sun 12-Apr-20 20:40:58

I really thought that the PM being so ill last week in intensive care would be the wake up call some people needed but it appears not

You thought a person who apparently doesn't believe in illness, who wilfully made a great show of having skin to skin contact with Covid patients, and was then seen not adhereing to advice to stay 2 metres apart would inspire people?

Hazel731 Sun 12-Apr-20 20:12:38

quizqueen how dare you run the police down when they are doing the best they can with the resources they are given. Think of them when this is all over and the pubs reopen, how many people are going to over indulge in alcohol and need a helping hand, how many drug dealers are going to be back out there along with the drug takers and thats without all the domestic fights, they are going to be run off their feet - will they get a clap- no.

SirChenjin Sun 12-Apr-20 19:36:34

I think it’s possible to be concerned by all breaches - I certainly am. We will never get past this while so many people are spreading it - it’s maddening.

MissAdventure Sun 12-Apr-20 19:36:28

Yes, that's a fair point,
I must stop moaning! blush

quizqueen Sun 12-Apr-20 19:28:28

While I appreciate that this behaviour is not strictly in keeping with the spirit of what we are supposed to be doing, I am far more concerned that flights from all over the world are still being allowed to come to our airports and that people are turning up in boats illegally on our shores and that the police are targeting people sitting on benches instead of arresting drug dealers still out there plying their wares.

Susan56 Sun 12-Apr-20 19:13:32

My 88 year old mother lives 50 miles away so we can’t visit.She has been doing amazingly well but was upset today as my cousin is taking my 90 year old aunt out for a drive everyday and now mum doesn’t understand why we can’t do that.Very upsetting as mum has handled the situation really well until now.To say I’m not happy with my cousin is an understatement?

CherryCezzy Sun 12-Apr-20 19:06:22

Envious? It's understandable to feel that they are getting something you want - that loving close affection, given and received. I won't feel that way. Sad to not be able to do that at the moment yes but happy that I am not because I know the possible implications and would not want to be complicit in them. Some people with the virus have no symptoms at all (eg. the once footballer Kenny Darglish - who went into hospital for something unrelated, but was routinely tested and found to have it) so a trip to the supermarket and then the family visiting a week or two later could prove deadly for a loved one. I am happy that I won't do that.
My next door neighbour has had her ex come and take the girls out for the afternoon a few times since the lockdown. Yesterday they went out taking another neighbour's daughter with them and when they returned their cousin came back in the car too.
It's irresponsible, selfish and worst of all could prove to be devastating for them all. I want my family safe.