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To think neighbour was right out of order. Sorry, very long!

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Grannyjay Thu 07-May-20 10:40:27

You have obviously built a good relationship with your neighbours and your other neighbour is making a judgement on her personal findings at that time. Your lovely elderly neighbours are of sound mind and can make their own decisions on where they want to live. The curt neighbour may have the forthright personality without empathy as she obviously doesn’t seem to have that same rapport as you do. Personally I would be concerned about moving the elderly into a home at this present time and maybe the best option would be to increase carer visits to ensure they are safe and have a occupational therapist visit to look at the home and ways of making it safer.

Septimia Thu 07-May-20 10:29:05

No, you're not BU. Clearly this other neighbour doesn't know them as well as you and doesn't have the same empathy. I know people who have put parents in care homes when I would have looked after them at home - because that's where they were happy. It's only when they, or the family, really can't manage physically and mentally that a care home becomes an answer.

My FiL stayed at home and managed very well until the last couple of years, when he gradually deteriorated. The last time he went into hospital it was clear that being at home was no longer safe for him due to his Alzheimers and we would have had to look for a care home had he recovered from the fall that hospitalised him. But that was a different situation.

If your neighbours still have their marbles then the decision is theirs and your other neighbour was very insensitive. I'd suggest to the couple that they don't ask for her help again.

Witzend Thu 07-May-20 10:07:59

We have some very frail, very elderly neighbours who we’ve known for many years - a lovely and formerly glamorous couple, so it’s doubly sad to see them like this.

Over recent years we’ve told them repeatedly to ring us if they need any help, but lately it’s become more frequent. He has a lot of mobility difficulties now and falling for both of them has become more frequent.

Both are unable to help the other get up, so we’ve been called on twice very recently to help, with that and other things. Before anyone says it, if there’s any question that they’re hurt we call an ambulance but most often it’s not the case, so since they’re both very light, dh has always been able to manage.

Now of course there the virus worry about seeing them - not so much from them, since they don’t go out, but because they regularly have carers in. Dh went yesterday (with gloves and mask) to help after another fall, but because the wife evidently feels bad about asking us (as she’s said so many times) she also called on another neighbour who has rarely helped before, to assist.
That neighbour, however, asked dh to come and help.

After the necessary help had been given, one of the couple phoned their son, who lives not too far away and does visit fairly often.

This other neighbour insisted on speaking to him, and right in front of the elderly couple told him in very forthright tones that it was high time they were both in a home. She then said the same to the couple, in similarly blunt tones. (All related to me later by dh.)

Should add that both have their marbles intact, and the son has often urged them to move a lot closer to him, but they have never wanted to. And TBH given their ages and states of health, I can’t see how it’d be managed now, not to mention that such a change and general disruption would probably be the beginning of the end for them. I don’t think an actual care home has ever been suggested, though.

I really did think the neighbour was right out of order to say such a thing in front of - and directly to - the couple, who were obviously distressed anyway. If she’d wanted to speak to the son and say that, she could have done so later, in private - we have his number. She’s obviously a very brisk, no-nonsense type who doesn’t mince words, but to me it was tactless and insensitive.

At the moment, and for the foreseeable future, unless there’s really no alternative, who on earth is going to be putting anyone in a care home anyway - even if they’re willing to go? Not to mention that you can’t ‘put’ anyone with mental capacity if they don’t choose to go.

Maybe I’m BU but the lack of sensitivity to a lovely couple really bothered me. The ‘forthright’ neighbour has not known the couple nearly as long as we have, so presumably just thinks of them as pathetic oldies who need to be firmly told what’s good for them, rather than the smart, active people we knew before.