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To think footballers taking the knee is hypocritical?

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flopen Mon 13-Jul-20 09:09:19

My DH watches football a lot. It really gets on my nerves to see footballers taking the knee in support of BLM at the start of a match when I've not heard one of them protest against the working conditions of those building the stadium for the World Cup in Qatar, which amount to slavery.
They're happy to make meaningless gestures but indifferent to issues which they could actively do something about.

flopen Wed 15-Jul-20 21:40:45

the trouble is that we need more power stations but can't afford to build them.

25Avalon Wed 15-Jul-20 21:25:47

Paddyanne we don’t want Hinckley Point power station full stop but especially not if it is Chinese. Their record of building powers stations is very poor.

Furret Wed 15-Jul-20 15:53:13

quizqueen

I disagree strongly of anyone taking the knee.

[sic]

I doubt they give a toss about your disapproval. Do you disapprove of genuflection too?

flopen Wed 15-Jul-20 15:50:01

I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens about chinese involvement in so many aspects of our infrastructure paddy.
But I don't think it's an appropriate comparison.

quizqueen Wed 15-Jul-20 15:46:04

I disagree strongly of anyone taking the knee.

paddyanne Wed 15-Jul-20 15:40:49

Not keen on Hypocrisy Flopen ? So how about the WM government banning Huawei and still letting the Chinese build Nuclear power stations in England ?

Iam64 Wed 15-Jul-20 13:36:56

Ahem - not all Christians are hypocritical.
Just saying

Loislovesstewie Wed 15-Jul-20 13:27:46

Buttonjugs; don't get me started on the whole Christianity hypocrisy thing! We could be here for hours, so I will shut up now.

Buttonjugs Wed 15-Jul-20 13:15:04

No, I don’t agree. I think it is a very positive gesture. What I do think is hypocritical - off topic but politicians who claim to be Christian and vote against welfare benefit issues resulting in deaths.

Lucca Wed 15-Jul-20 13:08:38

timetogo2016

OOOOPS thanks Luccca we`re it is i`m getting type lazy.

Oh that’s a shame. I so hoped it was “were”, as in used to be .....

timetogo2016 Wed 15-Jul-20 13:05:24

OOOOPS thanks Luccca we`re it is i`m getting type lazy.

Loislovesstewie Wed 15-Jul-20 10:20:36

Yes, lots of things happened 80 years ago and that is just my point . Those things are forgotten and they shouldn't be forgotten . I fail to understand why we are supposed to consider that it's not a balanced argument, there isn't some sort of hierarchy where one person's hurt takes precedence. Many people were enslaved by the Nazis , many people were tortured and murdered. We should remember them and make sure that the companies who used them are also remembered for what they did. There is no difference in remembering that or remembering slavery anywhere.

Chardy Wed 15-Jul-20 10:08:11

Lewis Hamilton is a black role model. He drives a Mercedes because it's the best F1 car. German industry did lots of strange things 80 years ago, plenty of factories did it presumably to fit in with the govt of the time, or even at the behest of Hitler.
If he takes the knee, he's a hypocrite because he earns a lot of money and works for Mercedes; if he doesn't he's denying his heritage so he's a hypocrite. Not really a balanced argument, is it?

Furret Wed 15-Jul-20 08:20:41

But all lives don’t matter. That’s the point. Black lives don’t seem to be important.

Black people can be gunned down while out jogging, suffocated on the street, black children shot in playgrounds, and so on. And when at last they say ‘enough is enough’ all the nasty little racists crawl out of their worm holes and shout.

Lucca Tue 14-Jul-20 18:31:20

timetogo2016

Were devoted to ALL LIVES MATTER.

Were ? Or we’re ?

flopen Tue 14-Jul-20 18:06:24

Judging by the (only) threads Flopen has started I suspect they’re only here for the sport.

and I thought it was bad form to check posters out this way.

Which of the 4 posts that I started do you object to? The one asking why GN didn't have a Feminism Thread, the one where (given several poster supporting me) I asked the Site to create one, this one, or the one where I wanted posters' thoughts about buying a 2nd home to be near grandchildren?

Do tell me, and I'll tone down what you think I shouldn't be asking about.

AGAA4 Tue 14-Jul-20 16:28:36

I agree that we shouldn't compare policing in the UK to that practised in The US.

GagaJo Tue 14-Jul-20 11:36:00

I guess you see the Civil Rights Movement, Women's Lib, Gay Rights as anarchy too. How equality is anarchy mystifys me, but maybe if you've always been privileged, equality is threatening.

Elderflower2 Tue 14-Jul-20 11:17:04

Peer pressure at the right time.

ladymuck Tue 14-Jul-20 10:45:13

Iam64

Grandad thankfully is a one off on this site.

Sometimes Grandad is the only one who talks any sense on this site. I usually agree with what he says.

Loislovesstewie Tue 14-Jul-20 10:37:12

Lewis Hamilton is paid 40million a year to drive a car for Mercedes , the same company who used slave labour during WW2. I don't notice him refusing to be paid by them, or calling them out on that . He is entitled to his opinions and to take action as he sees fit but to me that smacks of hypocrisy.

EMMF1948 Tue 14-Jul-20 10:16:47

It's become a fad, which they feel obliged to follow.

No-one should be 'obliged' to make any gesture in support of anything but this issue has brought bullying to the fore, if you don't do as I do you must disagree with the issue, Lewis Hamilton's name comes to mind.
As with many well meaning things it has been hi-jacked for political purposes.

25Avalon Tue 14-Jul-20 10:04:30

Not one off grandad. There are others thank goodness. I see a black BLM activist in UK is comparing our police to the KKK! You couldn’t make it up!

Grandad1943 Tue 14-Jul-20 09:59:31

Iam64

Grandad thankfully is a one off on this site.

Yet another post from the forum member which adds nothing to the debate.

Grandad1943 Tue 14-Jul-20 09:57:12

GagaJo

If you think kneeling as a sign of respect as a response to police brutality is anarchy Grandad, I question your moral compass.

You can question whatever you like in regards to me GagaJo. However, I would question the moral compass of those that support and organisation that wishes to "defund the police" and release all convicted criminals in British prisons.

The above is nothing short of support for Anarchy. Also policing in Britain can in no way be compared to policing in the United States. The two countries are completely different in attitudes, governance and law enforcement with the only common denominator found in their Common language.