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English language - where is it going to? AIBU

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TwinLolly Sat 21-Nov-20 10:33:46

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and very menopausal but there are words that are getting under my skin.

* "Co-worker" seems to be a new word for colleague.

* "Super" this and "super" that instead of "very" or "huge", etc.

* "Denied", e.g. as in "he/she was denied entry" - instead of "refused entry", or other cases where the world "refused" would make more sense than the word "denied".

* Where has the word "donated" gone to. It's now "gifted".

* I get confused when reading a newspaper or magazine article where people are now referred to by their surnames only without the Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms. I lose the plot as to who is who confused. I'd prefer to referred to as Mrs Surname or my first name.

There are other words too, but I can't think of them now.

Rant over. Sorry! blush

CanadianGran Sun 22-Nov-20 05:22:16

Coworker vs colleague:
The key difference between colleague and coworker is that the colleague can either refer to someone who is in the same rank or state as you or who work with you while the coworker typically refers to someone with whom you work with.

I unconsciously associated colleagues being of more professional nature, and coworkers at a lower level. For instance teachers or accountants would be colleagues and clerks coworkers. So both are correct in my eyes. when referring to two mechanics at a garage, I would use coworkers.

Lucca Sun 22-Nov-20 05:45:19

Clear as......?

Witzend Sun 22-Nov-20 08:56:46

I hate ‘gifting’ too, especially when in the context, ‘giving’ would be fine.
Even John Lewis has signs in our local store about ‘gifting’. I would expect JL to know better!

I don’t even use ‘gift’ - it’s always ‘present’ here, which maybe make me weird, not that I care.

Sarnia Sun 22-Nov-20 09:02:20

I don't like the expression 'turning' when it's someone's birthday. Just me.

Witzend Sun 22-Nov-20 09:06:14

Re colleague/s - a ‘prize’ should probably have gone to my local Asda, where there used to be signs saying, ‘If you can’t find what you want, please ask a colleague.’

I was frequently so tempted to ask customer services, with a suitably puzzled expression, how my colleagues at work would know where to find e.g. gluten free pasta.
But I restrained myself.
I don’t see those signs any more - someone must have had a little word.

Actually IIRC it was even ‘better’:

‘If you can’t find what you want. Please ask a colleague.’

MawBe Sun 22-Nov-20 09:26:09

HillyN

I can't understand why people on radio or T.V. who describe a sport event are said to 'commentate'. Surely the verb is to comment?

Hardly.
The late Bill McLaren was a rugby commentator not a commenter

The two verbs do indeed have different meanings.

JenniferEccles Sun 22-Nov-20 09:33:02

Oh that’s interesting welbeckthank you.

That would probably explain it as I have lived in the south all my life!

sue01 Sun 22-Nov-20 09:43:17

I swear... when people kill adverbs !

Wrap up warm..... aaarrrrgh !!

Froglady Sun 22-Nov-20 09:47:13

Please can we find a new word for unprecedented? It's being so overused these days that, for me, it's lost the impact.

Moggycuddler Sun 22-Nov-20 09:52:17

JenniferEccles

I have noticed the habit lately of people saying “I am sat here” instead of sitting.

To me I am sat seems to indicate someone picked them up and plonked them down on the seat !

Maybe it is correct but it just sounds wrong to me.

Agree! One of my pet hates too. "I am sitting" IS correct, as is "I was sitting". Not sat. I have seen this mistake in a number of published novels too.

polnan Sun 22-Nov-20 09:54:38

not so much words as

I so hate..

me and him,, where we were taught to put the other person first!! ie..

John and me! for example...

perhaps that is part of the problems now.. we always put ourselves before others?

Mollygo Sun 22-Nov-20 09:57:43

My particular hate is hearing something described as ‘very fun’ or ‘so fun’. When I pointed out that fun is a noun not an adjective, my DGD said, “But that was when you were at school Grandma!”

Deed5y Sun 22-Nov-20 10:05:09

When requesting applause for someone, why do ‘they’ now to ‘give it up for...’. What exactly are we to give up?

KerryS Sun 22-Nov-20 10:06:31

Sentences seem to start with 'so' these days! Why? e.g 'What do you do for a living?' 'So I'm a nurse' !!! Argghh!
I too am irritated when people use the word myself when they shouldn't.
And what about 'literally'? We keep hearing people say things like 'I literally laughed my head off'!! No, you didn't!!
'I give 110%' ?? That's not possible!!
And don't even get me started on 'My bad'!
But that's language for you, I suppose!

buylocal Sun 22-Nov-20 10:07:31

Many 'new' words are simply americanisms. Competence to competency! They dont necessarily expand available vocabulary, they also limit and confuse. Evolve, yes, anything goes, no. My current pet hates are ' alternate' instead of 'alternative '- its plain wrong, the words have different meanings - and the overuse of superlatives. There is no room for degrees any more everything and everyone is amazing. Really?

lorna28 Sun 22-Nov-20 10:09:07

What about "Woke".

Redhead56 Sun 22-Nov-20 10:11:36

Back story instead of ‘your past’ yesterday evening instead of ‘last night’ most annoying. Starting a sentence with ‘So’ what’s the point of that?

janipans Sun 22-Nov-20 10:15:32

I hate "almost exactly". Something is either almost the same or exactly the same, but it can't be both!

Doodledog Sun 22-Nov-20 10:15:56

I don’t like ‘hysterical’ used to mean ‘hilarious’, but I wonder if it has evolved into correct usage now. ‘ John slipped on a banana skin, and it was hysterical’.

Some of the problem is getting old, of course grin. We were taught that ‘hopefully’ meant ‘with hope’, not ‘with any luck’, but the meaning has changed now. I also think that it is now acceptable to say ‘different to’ instead of ‘different from’, when it used to be considered American usage (and therefore the work of the Devil, according to my English teacher). Both sound wrong to me, but life moves on.

Secondwind Sun 22-Nov-20 10:21:15

‘Should of’ or ‘could of’ seems to be sidling into everyday parlance. It makes me cringe!

sandelf Sun 22-Nov-20 10:21:31

Generally I can just laugh and move on, knowing that I speak a variation no longer current. BUT 'Scarey' does annoy me.

Grandma70s Sun 22-Nov-20 10:22:43

It’s perfectly acceptable to say ‘wrap up warm’. ‘Warm’ can be used as an adverb in this context. Compare ‘hold tight/sleep tight’, or ‘receiving you loud and clear’ (not ‘loudly and clearly’). English is a flexible language.

Stilton Sun 22-Nov-20 10:26:01

My pet hate is 'season'. There's a new series of Doctor Who/whatever, not a new season. The latter is Spring and Winter etc.
Plus lieutenant/lootenant. Pronunciation!

GreenGran78 Sun 22-Nov-20 10:26:17

My GD used to speak so quickly that her brain couldn’t keep up with her mouth. Every sentence was punctuated with ‘like’. I think that it was used as a thinking pause, instead of the usual ‘um’ or ‘er’. She is studying law at university (not uni!) One day I pointed out to her that she would not get very far as a solicitor or lawyer if she rattled away at her clients, or in court, in her usual manner. She has taken it on board, and now speaks much more slowly, and the ‘likes’ have vanished.

My pet hate is when people loose something, instead of losing it. It seems to be quite commonplace now, and I just don’t understand how the mistake has crept into common usage.

kittypaws49 Sun 22-Nov-20 10:28:49

I don't like " bored of " instead of " bored with ". And "tearing up " instead of crying.