Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson

I used to like Piers Morgan until he realised being "controversial" got him more publicity. He is now so self-obsessed and opinionated. Yes he is entitled to his opinion, but he doesn't seem to think that anyone else is entitled to a differing opinion.

I really don't care about the Harry and Meghan interview but I do think his continued attacks on them does amount to bullying, although in his case I think it is more about courting publicity (and money).

There is a difference between balanced criticism, and men taking advantage of the dislike many profess for a particular woman, to express the venom and bile they feel for women in general. Call it willy waving if you like, but it's the verbal outpourings of two men who are clever enough to know they can't be personally violent, but they can fuel male hatred.

Gasp shock horror - from the Telegraph 2016

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/while-male-leaders-stoop-to-willy-waving-it-is-the-women-who-are/

lemsip

^willy wavers^

Low and infantile talk seeping in again.

???? It sums them up perfectly - men like them are willy wavers. Accurate, precise, says everything so succinctly about that type of man.

willy wavers

Low and infantile talk seeping in again.

He seems quite unbalanced on the subject. Pure spite. It might be his opinion but I don't want to hear it ad infinitum.

I don’t like either of them, if anything, I dislike Jeremy Clarkson more, but they have the right to state their opinions, and I have the right to neither listen (I don’t) nor take any notice of them. I don’t care for MM either, and I have the right to say that. Everyone else has the right to take not a jot of notice.

I dont think PM criticised Meghan, I think he is perfectly entitled to do that, I think he behaved like a stalker.

Women criticising men - acceptable, men criticising women is a no no.

Lucca shooting yourself is drastic and very messy, perhaps less painful to avoid threads about Meg ?

Regardless of our like or dislike MM& PH,...... Piers Morgan & Jeremy Clarkson have shown themselves to be what many of us already recognised..... that is to say: Sad, pathetic, with overblown opinions of themselves etc etc ......

I didn’t find Clarkson’s attempt at a joke amusing, he didn’t give an opinion on the interview.

trisher many women have criticised Meg, and men have defended her, wasn’t it a man who defended her in the barney with Morgan ? I didn’t see it, don’t watch breakfast shows.

Quite dramatic Lucca. I would miss your posts

Apologies that should of course be Meghan.

On any other. thread posters would be up in arms about bullying, dominating men denigrating women, but hey it's Maghan Markle so anything goes. Amazing how those who profess to believe women are badly treated by men choose to support the men when it suits them. Do they not realise this is where the mistreatment begins?

Whatever Morgan and Clarkson really think of she who must not be named, their loud trumpeting of "their truth" is more about them than anybody else. Morgan especially knows that many agree with him and that's why he keeps saying what he does - publicity for himself. Doesn't make him right though.

And Clarkson's pronouncements apparently were in his new TV show, which is not exactly winning plaudits from the audiences or the critics. And the comments were quite puerile, I believe, likening what MM said to the sound of bodily functions. Charmer.

So no Catlover21, YANBU.

If this thread is about Jeremy Clarkson, I cannot bear to watch him sorry. If it’s about Meghan again I think I’ll go and shoot myself.

See my previous post re what being in a majority means.
No. What you would like it to mean.

It means 'the greater number'; nothing to do with right or wrong, as you well know.
Is this the Meghan Markle school of 'our truth'?

JenniferEccles

I believe the numbers of people who contacted him agreeing with him far exceeded those who complained.

He was speaking for a hell of a lot of people and I am still struggling to understand why he had to leave his job simply for stating his opinion.

He did stress that he wasn’t doubting that she felt suicidal as of course no one can see inside another’s mind, but as for the rest of the malicious accusations his view chimed with many especially in this country.

Apparently the Queen has been receiving sackfulls of letters each day from the public offering support at this awful time.

See my previous post re what being in a majority means.

I believe the numbers of people who contacted him agreeing with him far exceeded those who complained.

He was speaking for a hell of a lot of people and I am still struggling to understand why he had to leave his job simply for stating his opinion.

He did stress that he wasn’t doubting that she felt suicidal as of course no one can see inside another’s mind, but as for the rest of the malicious accusations his view chimed with many especially in this country.

Apparently the Queen has been receiving sackfulls of letters each day from the public offering support at this awful time.

Anniebach

But it isn’t the majority of the UK ,

Well we don’t know that but so what if it’s true? Being in a majority doesn’t mean you’re necessarily right, it just means more of you are wrong than right. ?

Chewbacca

^They are two willy waving men probably with not much to wave^

Drat! I missed that bit! Is it on catch up?

Not missed much ?

They are two willy waving men probably with not much to wave

Drat! I missed that bit! Is it on catch up?

They have a right to an opinion as do we. Don’t totally agree with them but what a boring world if we were all the same. Not a big Megan fan and really believe the interview was very biased. Oprah definitely didn’t ask relevant questions.

Where would we be without it ??

Free Speech isn't it ?