Pronunciation

I absolutely agree. This is not about regional accents, which are lovely, just lazy speech. Every time I hear letters missed out I'd like to scream

Maybe someone on here can help me with this one. At the moment I hear the word isolation pronounced by TV presenters, newsreaders even our Scottish leader, ‘ice’ olation’ . I would say ‘aye’solation.
Any views?

I think we’ve had a post like this before. Most of the mis-pronunciations, to my mind, are just lazy speech and shouldn’t happen on the radio or TV.

Meet one is ‘sarfnoon’ for ‘this afternoon’.

I think 'haitch' is from Australia if I'm not mistaken, so Neighbours and the like will have influenced that.

On our local radio station we have a presenter who says, 'No'in'um' instead of Nottingham which drives my friend mad.

On the other hand I've read that Americans have noticed that children are speaking with an English accent due to Peppa Pig so it works both ways.

Mogsmaw I was unaware that ‘off of’ came from Renfrew and I would not want to upset any folk from there. It still sounds clunky to me.

As I said I like dialects/accents and want them to continue.

Dialect is a different matter- who wouldn't agree that the wonderful Brenda Blethyn as Vera just would not be the same if she spoke 'the Queens English'? But commentating, News, adverts, etc, No. Let us hear proper pronunciation please.

Local accents...everywhere is different Saying that I would get so annoyed by Americans....luved there for 3 years and worked in UK with for 14 years.. pronouncing the t in my name as a d.

Nannan2

I don't think you were missAdventure.But anyway, there is a difference in having a disability, and the 'common, lazy way' that SOME commentators and presenters/advert voice overs speak.That is NOT a disability.Thats just slatternly habits.

Well, perhaps I was thinking wrongly about what I was thinking.
Thanks for putting me right.
P.S. I still disagree.

Years ago there were places called Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and so on, then they appeared much frequently on the news and became Afghanistarn, Pakistarn, and so on. Then there seemed to be a competition among news people to elongate the aaarrn bit even more. I switched off.

Yes I fed the same, it annoys me on The Voice when Emma Willis says twenny instead of twenty etc. Queens English should be spoken properly on TV!

I don't think you were missAdventure.But anyway, there is a difference in having a disability, and the 'common, lazy way' that SOME commentators and presenters/advert voice overs speak.That is NOT a disability.Thats just slatternly habits.

Just got back from the Royal Free Hospital, where, a young man was directing people at the car park entrance. As I rolled my window down he asked "what d'you want?" As I was in the car park queue I thought that was obvious so wasn't sure what he was getting at. I asked what he meant. He then asked if I was dropping off or parking! If he had asked that in the first place I'd have had a clue!
My point is that it is not only accents that are annoying but using the wrong wording too!
Rant over - feel better for that!

Sarnia

Alex Scott, the former Arsenal and England footballer and now an excellent sports presenter has been criticised for not pronouncing the 'g' at the end of words. She is an East End girl born and bred, so how is she supposed to speak? Lord Digby Jones was so rude about the way Alex talks during her coverage of the Olympics that she stepped down from her presenting job. Thankfully she was back doing her job on last night's Olympic Games coverage, effectively sticking 2 fingers up at pompous Digby. Good for her!

I agree with you, but it seems that Priti Patel is fair game for doing exactly the same.

And yes, Commentators in sport etc.

That's who I'm talking about, too.
I disagree.
That's all.

Missadeventure- i am not speaking about the ACTORS, in a regional tv show for example, i am speaking about the PRESENTERS, and so i think was OP.News, weather, advertisements, in fact anything INFORMATIVE.

And accent and pronunciation are not always 'misaligned'. Most people can tell i have a (slight) northern accent, but i am far more 'well spoken' in my pronunciation than most i know.

I disagree.
We now have people with cerebral palsy regularly appearing on tv.
Should we say they shouldn't be allowed because it's sometimes difficult to understand them immediately?

I very much doubt anyone can't decipher what's being said, by anyone.

We have moved away from the BBC accent, thankfully!

Yes Jaylucy, i agree, in most jobs, but tv and radio? Then correct pronunciation matters.

Regional accents are fine with me, but I can’t stand ‘haitch’! The word for the letter h is ‘aitch’. Not sure why or how this habit began. Anybody have any thoughts?

PROPERLY, DianaLouise, properLY?

Thankfully things have moved on from when your accent and pronunciation had to fit your job!
Nowadays the employer is more likely to be looking for someone that can actually do the job rather than how they say things - especially seeing as, in my experience, that they often say words incorrectly anyway!

I am not a snob, it is just that if you are going to be on tv and radio, presenting (or doing a voice-over on an advert) then surely it is to the advantage of the general public to use clear precise words that everyone can hear and understand!?

Some years back I wrote to the BBC and complained about the weather people saying ‘off of’. That stopped them !
When I did linguists ( for a very short time, years ago). I was told the use of “off of”put you within a 20 mile radius of Renfrew. I did grow up in that area. So it’s not a mistake it’s a local dialect. So “that stopped them” is trying to stamp out a regional dialect. Well done you!

And yes, i do wonder why they allow people on tv (announcers and such like) if they cannot be bothered to speak correctly ?