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Americanisation (the) of our language

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MollyF Wed 17-Nov-21 16:25:30

As in 'passing' instead of dying. 'Bathroom' instead of toilet. I hate it. Americans can be really crude but have this prissy use of euphemisms - it's almost Victorian.

I also hate 'Year on year' instead of year after year. 'One on one' instead of one to one. We should rebel instead of adopting their turns of phrase. Even the BBC uses them.

Kalu Thu 18-Nov-21 14:12:47

Only two examples that come to mind are
Pants instead of trousers
Purse instead of handbag
They don’t actually bother me, just that the meanings are very different.

sundowngirl Thu 18-Nov-21 14:12:35

'My bad' is just wrong!!

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 18-Nov-21 14:11:11

Absolutely right Maw. I have read many old title deeds, up to the early C20, which refer to the land conveyed as being a certain ‘color’ on the accompanying plan.

Modompodom Thu 18-Nov-21 14:09:20

My bad
Pretty please
Wait up instead of wait
Snuck
Dove as in the past tense of to dive
Waitlist
I could think of more......

Fridayschild Thu 18-Nov-21 13:59:39

“Not that big OF a deal” - the of is unnecessary. Annoying. Hear this “of” a lot!

Grandma70s Thu 18-Nov-21 13:57:58

A further observation on ‘lavatory’.

When I was a child one of my favourite books was ‘What Katy Did at School’, sequel to What Katy Did, a 19th century American classic. In this book, Katy and her sister Clover go to a boarding school in Connecticut. When the headmistress is showing their father around the school, she shows him a room she proudly refers to as ‘our lavatory’. This startled me a bit when I was nine, but I soon realised she meant ‘washroom’, the place where the girls washed, a literal use of ‘lavatory’. (It was apparently communal, and their father insisted that Katy and Clover had individual washstands in their rooms.)

MayBeMaw Thu 18-Nov-21 13:51:00

Yeah homicide instead of murder and gotten agh!! I know language evolves but why is it evolving backwards? We sent people over to America with our English language and they changed it and sent it back
No they didn’t.
They kept much of it unchanged -color, honor, gotten , homicide and all the rest of them.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Nov-21 13:50:57

Well thank you for reaching out. wink

Delila Thu 18-Nov-21 13:49:30

I don’t like “from the get-go”, or “power-outage”. No offence intended.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Nov-21 13:45:13

Well, buns is a controversial term in itself isn't it?
To me, a bun is a sweet thing like a teacake.

In other places around the UK a bun can be lots of things.
A roll, something to put a burger in...

NfkDumpling Thu 18-Nov-21 13:38:26

MissAdventure

Gay people would sound silly coming out of the wardrobe.

Oh, I love that one MissAdventure - I shall use it in future whenever I get the opportunity! Or perhaps it should be the loo/lavatory/toilet?

I've been told the word 'closet' comes from the old English word for a small room where you be closetted away to write or pray as there was little privacy in most houses where one room led from another. It then became a private place to wash - or relieve oneself. Since the smell of urine kept moths at bay, clothes would be hung in there too, thus the closet became a wardrobe too.

I don't object to most American or Australian or any other imported changed words as that just language developing, but I do get niggled that muffins are now English muffins - why can't we in the UK keep our muffins and call those buns with too much raising agent American muffins? Come to that what happened to buns?

Keeper1 Thu 18-Nov-21 13:38:16

I love all the differences and I don’t mind what words and phrases are adopted it is what language is all about. Sorry

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 18-Nov-21 13:37:58

But they say homicide in Scotland - they have an offence of culpable homicide. I believe homicide is the correct word for the deliberate killing of a person - think of suicide, genocide, matricide etc. Not that I say ‘homicide’.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Nov-21 13:34:51

This is al quite offensive to the American members of gransnet, I'd imagine.
I have never seen them asking why we say something or don't speak as they do.
Presumably they have better manners.

Bignanny2 Thu 18-Nov-21 13:31:35

Yeah homicide instead of murder and gotten agh!! I know language evolves but why is it evolving backwards? We sent people over to America with our English language and they changed it and sent it back ?! And why can’t they use silent letters in their spellings eg: color instead of colour ?!?! We’ll be doing that soon too I bet !

Gwenisgreat1 Thu 18-Nov-21 13:17:49

As a child in Scotland I went to the bathroom long before it became the toilet.
I do notice gotten has crept in as well

polly123 Thu 18-Nov-21 13:16:54

Can I get, math,my truth and many more!

HannahLoisLuke Thu 18-Nov-21 13:13:17

Normalcy instead if normality.

Namsnanny Thu 18-Nov-21 13:11:20

I often look up the entomology of words and phrases. So I dont see it as complaining about one country or another.
When the Roman's were the ruling elite, all things Roman were adopted. So with the French and English. Now its the Americans turn.
Most people want to align themselves with the most powerful of the day. It shows in the use of language.

Anyway, slightly off topic, I've never met an American who hasnt been helpful or kind and pleasant to deal with.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Nov-21 13:10:38

Honestly, some of this is so outdated, it's ridiculous.
What makes it moreso is that people can't even agree on what is the "right" term to use.

Bromley Thu 18-Nov-21 13:09:05

Toilet is French ‘toilette’,which was deemed to be posh. Lavatory please.
Loo is cockney (poo),
Serviette instead of napkin.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Nov-21 13:07:37

My neighbour told me they were all around the table for sunday dinner, and her dad asked "where is so-and-so"?
Her sister said "He's on the bog"..
Then all hell let loose!

Grantanow Thu 18-Nov-21 13:04:21

Surely the right word is 'lavatory'. But seriously, English is a permanently changing language - the word 'television' didn't exist in the 19th century. The French waste a lot of time and effort trying to ossify their language and rid it of English borrowed words but they are fighting a losing battle.

MissAdventure Thu 18-Nov-21 13:02:48

Oh yes.
I often hear drug, too.
Crime fan here.
But then, in Scotland, I heard jamp instead of jumped. smile
I like to hear different accents and expressions.

Namsnanny Thu 18-Nov-21 12:57:24

Typo a long