Gransnet forums

AIBU

Are you irritated by incorrect grammar.

(209 Posts)
Quizzer Wed 12-Jan-22 10:01:45

I am all for regional accents, even though some can be mildly irritating.
However what really annoys me is blatantly incorrect grammar. On the news this morning I heard a senior politician using the phrases “you was” and “we was”. Unfortunately my brain automatically reduces my perception of the speaker’s IQ by about 20 points.
Am I alone in this, or are there any other glaring errors which really irritate you?

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:43:07

GD1 had a teacher from the north east of England who, when teaching pupils the alphabet, insisted on pronouncing aitch as haitch, which shows up underlined in red as I type.

I made the mistake of correcting her to no avail as her reply was, whatever the teacher said was correct! Grr.

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 14:38:38

‘They’ bought in the bloody green pen thing because they reckoned that red was aggressive and upset the kids.
The reality was that green pen didn’t show up in the page easily, didn’t photocopy well and the pens weren’t widely available.
I bought boxes and boxes of Staedtler bottle green fine liners.
I still have dozens of the things!

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:31:12

I always had you down as the edgy type Marydoll? I’m afraid our teachers only ever saw red, in bold letters??

kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:24:31

I see autocorrect doesn't give protestants a capital letter!

kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:23:29

Boz

All that really grates on me is using a breathy H when talking about the letter "aitch". I think it come about from a fear of dropping your H and looking ignorant.

In N Ireland people who say haitch are Catholics. I don't know why that is but I don't know any protestants who pronounce it that way.

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 14:14:31

Kalu, I always used a green pen!!! ?

Kalu Thu 13-Jan-22 14:10:37

Too many former teachers on here with the dreaded red pen to mark our papers!?

Personally, I think it rude and unkind to correct anyone who has made an obvious error and I cringe when I witness posters being taken to task on GN. At this age, I care not a jot as the content of a post is more important for me.

Doodledog Thu 13-Jan-22 13:52:20

Well said, MissA.

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 13:51:33

Aaaand Rayner, not Raynor. blush

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 13:50:38

Raynor has no need to improve anything.
She has done better than anyone on here, I would say.

eazybee Thu 13-Jan-22 13:48:40

Coastpath makes the point that her mum's education was lacking, but writes that she seized the opportunity to improve her learning at night school, as so many did.
Angela Rayner considers she has no need to improve her grammar, or lack of education, which is shocking coming from someone who was for a time Shadow Secretary of State for Education.

Kali2 Thu 13-Jan-22 12:13:31

As said before, I am fascinated by regional accents, but somehow Angela Rayner's grates on me. So what, who cares ... it is my problem.

Stockport-raised MP Angela Rayner has been 'critiqued' on her accent and grammar - she's not having it

“I wasn't Eton educated, but growing up in Stockport I was taught integrity, honesty and decency. Doesn't matter how you say it. Boris Johnson is unfit to lead.” (Angela Rayner).

Devorgilla Thu 13-Jan-22 11:17:33

I do get irritated by incorrect grammar or spelling but not to the extent that I would embarrass someone by pointing it out. I also accept that, coming from NI, we often use words and phrases differently. My English, English-teacher husband and I have crossed swords on this for some 53 years. One of my three daughters is much more slapdash in her approach, but she is of the internet and mobile generation. Language changes and people use it differently. I do, however, know what parsing is. We were taught it in primary and secondary school in NI.

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 11:15:12

I understood the question asked in the thread title. smile

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 11:07:45

No-one is saying that these things don't matter. I admit to being a pedant and cringe sometimes, when reading posts. However, it is rude and unkind to point out a poster's spelling or grammatical errors (as has happened here on a number of occasions) on a public forum. Everyone should feel comfortable posting on this forum.

As for teachers not making errors, of course we should expect high standards from educators. However, we are all human and mistakes can happen.
I wish I could be as perfect, but not as smug-, as some posters on here.
This comes from a retired teacher, who specialised in working with pupils with dyslexia (my daughter included).

Dickens Thu 13-Jan-22 11:02:08

I do think people should take as much care as possible with grammar, spelling and sentence construction.

... but only because it makes it far more likely that others will understand what you are saying or writing.

I recently read a garbled rant on a social media site which had no punctuation whatsoever and half of it was written in 'text' speak. I was breathless simply reading it. I'm sure the person felt better for getting it off his chest, but I still have no idea what he was on about.

Doodledog Thu 13-Jan-22 10:53:07

The blurb won't have been written by the teaching staff on the MA.

I do think that everyone - however confident they may be about their 'excellent education' should get a CV proofread by a fresh pair of eyes, as anyone can make a mistake, and the closer we are to a piece of writing the less likely we are to notice mistakes.

Is 'To me I must say . . .' grammatically correct? wink

Witzend Thu 13-Jan-22 10:45:03

I once picked up a leaflet from our local university, advertising a taught MA in English literature.
There was at least one basic mistake in the blurb!

I didn’t bother pointing it out, though I dare say more than one other did. I should hope so, anyway.

To me I must say it’s unacceptable for teachers at any level to make basic mistakes, and even more unacceptable for anyone in any sort of teaching-related role to say that these things don’t matter any more, except to nitpicking old pedants (like me ?).

A friend of a dd worked in HR and was frequently faced with a pile of CVs, mostly with similar qualifications and experience.
She said the only way she could weed them down to a manageable number, was by ditching any with basic mistakes.

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 10:37:09

Coastpath, keep on posting. Content if far more important than being grammatically correct.

I wonder about Louse. Was it a Freudian slip? (Loose woman).?

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 10:25:06

Coastpath don’t worry about ‘parsing’ - I don’t know what it means either, and I’m perfectly secure in how clever and well educated I am, even if I do sound daft as a brush! smile

Doodledog Thu 13-Jan-22 10:00:22

Coastpath, I hope you don't stop posting because of thoughtless and ill-informed comments such as some of the ones on this thread.

I for one, enjoy your posts, and don't think that they are at all ungrammatical. If you hadn't mentioned your insecurity I would never have thought you would be someone who would think like this, as there is no need.

Coastpath Thu 13-Jan-22 09:46:32

Marydoll. I once wrote to my friend Louise and addressed her as Louse on the envelope, so don't feel too badly about wsa smile.

p.s. Louse and I are still friends.

Marydoll Thu 13-Jan-22 09:39:14

The grammatical error in the title shows that no matter how pedantic we are, none of us are perfect! wink

I have a degree in English Language, yet yesterday, despite previewing, I still mixed up hear and here. My brain tends to work faster than I can type, so I often find I have transposed letters. My most frequent error is wsa for was.
That is why I would never judge a poster's spelling, nor grammar.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Jan-22 09:30:08

I am when even the title of the thread can’t get it right??

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 09:16:48

Thank you Doodledog and Mary smile
I’m surprised that it took, me included, four pages before we spotted it / passed comment!