Mouth open duchess

Galaxy

But it's not real josiann those who are complimenting her now would turn on her in a heartbeat. I have no idea if she's intelligent or not, and care even less, it's not Kate I am having a go at it the expectations around her.

Thank you Galaxy, yes the adulation can be very short lived, but many live for the moment and there is no real harm done.

Oh, FFS.

I was just thinking about this (Not the hatred of NS, that's a separate misogyny that needs to be thought about.)

For me it is a concern that people look at the RF and treat them like film stars or pop stars. They want to talk about their nice hair, or how hard they work in their charities, or how the little children love them. Now lots of people have the same ideas about the Kardashians, or some other soap opera family, but none of the others have a place in the management of our country. That's the worry.

Alegrias1

Josieann

In terms of the timeless elements of human nature you are wrong Alegrias, from 1st century - 21st century. Dickens is not passé in that respect, nor is Shakespeare.

I am gladdened by the genuine smiles on the open mouthed faces of the people, mainly young people, she meets.

God bless us, everyone. So honoured, yer honour. Ever so humble.

Alegrias I realise you are a bit out of touch with my ways of espression, but this was a deliberate rhyming choice of language to Sago's, "I am saddened by comment" including the smiles to complete the picture of the rugby players' faces yeasterday. (But I can't be bothered to give 3 examples of their delight here).

Makes a pleasant change from that wee witchy you have up there Alegrias.

Galaxy

But it's not real josiann those who are complimenting her now would turn on her in a heartbeat. I have no idea if she's intelligent or not, and care even less, it's not Kate I am having a go at it the expectations around her.

This ^^

Josieann

In terms of the timeless elements of human nature you are wrong Alegrias, from 1st century - 21st century. Dickens is not passé in that respect, nor is Shakespeare.

I am gladdened by the genuine smiles on the open mouthed faces of the people, mainly young people, she meets.

God bless us, everyone. So honoured, yer honour. Ever so humble.

But it's not real josiann those who are complimenting her now would turn on her in a heartbeat. I have no idea if she's intelligent or not, and care even less, it's not Kate I am having a go at it the expectations around her.

In terms of the timeless elements of human nature you are wrong Alegrias, from 1st century - 21st century. Dickens is not passé in that respect, nor is Shakespeare.

Galaxy I appreciate what you are saying but I think there is more to her than just "look pretty and smile." I do think there is some intelligence above and beyond the sensitvity and compassion of say Diana.
The never take the lead bit in the marriage is depressing, but maybe she makes up for it at home?1

Jeezy peeps.

Republic, soon as we can, please....

He could have married someone like Meghan, look how that turned out. He married someone who understands the principles of service and duty as well as being a stunner.

Wealth? Where was that?

It would be nice if everyone stopped picking on PaddyAnn, not that I suppose she cares.

So many have a thing about ‘ wealth, class and comparing their
life styles’, PaddyAnn thinks of herself as a peasant, it’s sad really

Josieann

I'm with you Sago, but I am gladdened by the genuine smiles on the open mouthed faces of the people, mainly young people, she meets. That's enough for me, and if I can make just one person smile today then it will be all worthwhile.

Not the 17th Century, I was wrong.

Its a Dickens novel.

William made a good choice?

Is it the 17th Century?

I dont mean you particularly sago I mean the expectations around her. Look pretty, smile and be quiet. Never take the lead in your marriage etc. I just find it all a bit depressing.

I'm with you Sago, but I am gladdened by the genuine smiles on the open mouthed faces of the people, mainly young people, she meets. That's enough for me, and if I can make just one person smile today then it will be all worthwhile.

I agree Sago. And Paddys comment was gratuitously nasty, as usual.
Kate comes across as a genuinely caring and empathetic person who is always happy to pitch in with activities rather than just posing for the cameras. I think she does us proud. William made a good choice there.

Callistemon21

^Does she work hard? Not in the usual sense of the word. She's never had to work a 12 hour shift in Tescos, then go home and feed the kids on a fiver^

Are they the criteria for working hard?

If so, I never qualified.

Are you always as literal as you're being on this thread?

I don't think the royals work hard in the physical sense - having to be up early to catch 2 trains to work, not getting home until 7pm and still having to get dinner, sort out homework, iron school uniforms etc

But I imagine there must be a large amount of mental stress in their lives. Constantly scrutinised by the media, criticised for their appearance, not knowing from day to day what's going to be said about them or their loved ones in the papers, having limited choice in how they wish to live their lives.

I certainly don't envy them. But if I was a single mother working supermarket shifts I might.

Galaxy How can me describing her behaviour as impeccable be misogynistic?
Publicly she has not put a foot wrong, she has a difficult job, every aspect of her life is under scrutiny, she carries out her role in an impeccable manner with a smile.

I read your whole post Sago so that I made sure I'd got the right end of the stick.

This woman wasn't born into a live of privilege, she married well. And I'm afraid I'm not convinced, whatever anyone says, none of them work hard. Except William maybe, when he was flying his helicopters. And Harry, who was an actual, real soldier.

I've never met the woman and I've no idea if she's caring or any of the rest of it. Working a 12 hour shift wouldn't necessarily make her a better person, of course not, but the point was that that would be hard work; having someone else choose your nice frocks for you, do your hair and tell you all about the place you are going to visit today so that you know to say the right thing; that's not hard work.

So nobody's castigating that lady, except perhaps those who think she shouldn't be seen with her mouth open. These are the ones you should be criticising. The ones that think a woman "belongs" to them so much that they can talk about her teeth and her frocks and everything, as if she were their own daughter.

I am afraid the idea of 'behaving impeccably' is something I find sonehow quite misogynistic in itself. Be quiet, behave etc. Look what happens to those who dare to step out of line.

I am astounded at how this woman is being castigated.
You come across as toff bashing misogynists.
Would working a 12 hour shift in a supermarket make her a better person?
She works hard as a royal and as a mother.
Her behaviour is impeccable.
She was born into a life of privilege, so what!
She has quietly got on with her role as a royal and done lots of great charity work, she is a great ambassador for British fashion and cares deeply for the organisations she supports.
I am really saddened by a lot of the nasty comments,
PaddyAnne your comment in particular.

And if she puts a foot wrong they will hate her forever.

Kate has never done the 12 hour shift as a nurse, struggled to pay rent/mortgage/food despite working so hard.
I do wonder though about the emotional impact of Kate’s role. It’s no surprise none of us would swop with her and I wouldn’t want my daughters living Kate’s life.
Always on display, in role for whatever is expected that day. Everyone has a view on what she wears, how she responds to her husband and children in public.