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Not fit to be prime minister

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Quizzer Tue 12-Apr-22 21:33:20

Compared to many people my disappointments during lockdown were not too bad.
Missing my golden wedding celebrations, not holding my new grandchild until he was nearly six months old. Not being able to have the other grandchildren to stay - they all live some distance away, not being able to attend a close friend’s funeral.
I, like most other UK citizens, stuck to the rules.
Boris and his cronies did not. They held drinks events and parties for pathetic, unacceptable reasons. How can they ever expect the electorate to respect them or their laws. How dare they think they still have a mandate to rule us?

Ali08 Sun 05-Jun-22 13:02:47

And he is still here...I wish he was not. Horrible little man that I 'used to like', but now consider him very egotistic and 2 faced!!!

StoneofDestiny Mon 30-May-22 18:02:34

What did anybody who voted for this Bullingdon idiot expect? Shameful behaviour from a crass, lying and insensitive individual - who, let’s not forget is supported by Tory MP’s.

He lied to Parliament repeatedly. He broke the law. Those in charge of a national emergency due to a Pandemic thought it fit to get drunk every week!

Casdon Fri 22-Apr-22 20:44:37

This podcast with Robert Peston nails it for those who still don’t quite ‘get’ what a serious issue this is. He’s got some interesting ideas about potential successors as well.
www.itv.com/news/2022-02-24/what-you-need-to-know-the-itv-news-podcast-with-vital-information-and-analysis

Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Apr-22 19:43:36

India has a mask wearing mandate. Johnson can’t even follow the law as a guest.

My god what a crass ill mannered apology for a man he is.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Apr-22 19:31:13

The only one not wearing a mask.

StoneofDestiny Fri 22-Apr-22 19:06:51

This government will never be able to make any statement of any credibility about respect for law and order if he stays as PM.

Casdon Fri 22-Apr-22 12:47:49

CoolCoco

I can't understand about" Tony Blair did such and such" ... as some sort of excuse, I don't agree with what Tony Blair did and he's not the PM now, surely we are allowed to hold the current t*sser to account, the fact we had previous t*sser PMs is no reason to tolerate the lying and corruption we are suffering at the moment. The fact that most people don't care doesn't make it ok.

I completely agree CoolCoco. This is now not 14 years ago. I think history will judge Boris Johnson much more harshly than it will Tony Blair in fact, but that’s not what this is about.

I think Urmstongran is wrong too in thinking that younger people aren’t that interested or taking notice of what’s happening, I’d say it’s actually quite the opposite, they are more engaged than they have been for a long time at the moment because they are feeling the direct impact of the rising prices, are more environmentally aware than our generation, and are worried about the future - as well of course as Ukraine. Political issues are top of their agenda at the moment, at least the ones I know.

volver Fri 22-Apr-22 12:32:14

maddyone

A citizen of the country put the turban on him volver so I assumed they wanted him to wear it. They also put a garland of flowers round his neck. I think it’s done to most or all important visitors.

Thanks maddyone.

CoolCoco Fri 22-Apr-22 11:48:21

I can't understand about" Tony Blair did such and such" ... as some sort of excuse, I don't agree with what Tony Blair did and he's not the PM now, surely we are allowed to hold the current t*sser to account, the fact we had previous t*sser PMs is no reason to tolerate the lying and corruption we are suffering at the moment. The fact that most people don't care doesn't make it ok.

maddyone Fri 22-Apr-22 11:42:17

A citizen of the country put the turban on him volver so I assumed they wanted him to wear it. They also put a garland of flowers round his neck. I think it’s done to most or all important visitors.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Apr-22 11:40:42

volver

Can somebody who knows these things explain this to me?

Is him wearing a turban yesterday a sign of respect to or from the people he is visiting, or a religious requirement for the location, or something? Or was he just raiding the dress up box again?

It looked very disrespectful and like cultural appropriation, but I don't know enough about what is expected of visitors.

My thoughts also. But do you remember Denis Thatcher looking equally ridiculous?

I suspect it is penchant for dressing up tbh but I don’t know.

volver Fri 22-Apr-22 11:38:30

Can somebody who knows these things explain this to me?

Is him wearing a turban yesterday a sign of respect to or from the people he is visiting, or a religious requirement for the location, or something? Or was he just raiding the dress up box again?

It looked very disrespectful and like cultural appropriation, but I don't know enough about what is expected of visitors.

Urmstongran Fri 22-Apr-22 10:54:06

tickingbird

Tony Blair lied about far more serious stuff and thousands died; not forgetting Dr Kelly. He didn’t resign even though he has blood on his hands. It’s just one more thing for political opponents to jump on. I’m not over enamoured of BJ but I don’t believe he should resign. What he’s had to contend with since becoming PM is more than anyone should have to contend with.

Agree with you tickingbird.
He had Covid, was poorly, no visitors.
His mother died - couldn’t visit (hospital rules).
Brexit, Covid & supporting Ukraine (a damn sight better than some of our European friends and neighbours I may say!).

Look I do get what some of the fuss is about. But in the bigger picture -really?

I think most of the country come a GE will think ‘birthday cake and some fizz - who cares’?

‘Oh no’ say some ... ‘it’s because he’s a rule maker so he shouldn’t break the rules’.

“Okay - he’s apologised (like Nicola Sturgeon did) and got slapped with a FPN”

“AHA!” (if that hasn't wound up us red wall voters enough) ... it’s ‘he lied to Parliament’.

I think the majority of the voting public aren’t that engaged. Sorry but I don’t think the ordinary wo/man in the street are politically that minded. I know I wasn’t in say, my 30’s.

What will be will be. It will be interesting to see how this actually unfolds.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 22-Apr-22 10:48:35

?

Lindsay Galloway

Good morning everyone ?.
@metpoliceuk
can you now issue the remaining FPN’s so that we, the British public, can make informed decisions about who we choose to vote for. We have every right to know prior to the forthcoming elections.

OakDryad Fri 22-Apr-22 10:40:53

I think there’s a very real danger of some people believing that Johnson is some kind of world saviour.

I see news sources reporting that amid rumours of ministerial reshuffle, Johnson has promised Rishi Sunak will still be chancellor in the autumn, but refused to guarantee a job for the home secretary, Priti Patel.

Lucca Fri 22-Apr-22 10:30:14

volver

What has Johnson had to contend with that the other heads of government of the world haven't?

Brexit doesn't count as he chose that and he told us it was all going to be easy and fine.

That occurred to me too!

volver Fri 22-Apr-22 10:11:22

What has Johnson had to contend with that the other heads of government of the world haven't?

Brexit doesn't count as he chose that and he told us it was all going to be easy and fine.

tickingbird Fri 22-Apr-22 10:05:05

BJ has had a hell of a lot to contend with and didn’t start a phoney war whilst cosying up to the POTUS. The resulting fallout is the reason we have the Invictus games. The birth and horrors of ISIS, death and destruction in Iraq.

Talk about there’s none so blind…

OakDryad Fri 22-Apr-22 09:37:14

We have been down a similar road before over his affair with Jennifer Arcuri. In 2013, her company was awarded £10,000 from a mayoral fund followed by £15,000 from a government programme. Johnson intervened to allow her onto three trade mission trips. He failed to declare his personal relationship as a conflict of interest.

In 2019, the Independent Office for Police Conduct delayed its announcement on whether Johnson should face an investigation into possible criminal misconduct until after the General Election.

volver Fri 22-Apr-22 09:27:53

Johnson hasn't had anything more to contend with than any other world leader and at least he hasn't had to deal with foreign powers invading his country.

Par for the course when you want to lead a country I'm afraid. You've got to take the rough with the smooth and if you're not up to it and make a mess of it, then saying "it was really hard and he did his best" isn't a get out of jail free card that allows you to keep your job.

tickingbird Fri 22-Apr-22 09:19:43

Tony Blair lied about far more serious stuff and thousands died; not forgetting Dr Kelly. He didn’t resign even though he has blood on his hands. It’s just one more thing for political opponents to jump on. I’m not over enamoured of BJ but I don’t believe he should resign. What he’s had to contend with since becoming PM is more than anyone should have to contend with.

Zonne Fri 22-Apr-22 09:13:15

The Met aren’t stopping investigating, and if there is cause, they will still issue fines.

What they are not doing is making any announcements about how many fines they’ve issued during purdah.

I think it’s a misinterpretation of the rules, (because one could argue they are influencing the result of the election either way) but I can see why their legal team have made this decision.

What will be much more interesting is whether Downing Street sticks to its commitment to publicly announce if Johnson or Sunak get fines.

DaisyAnne Fri 22-Apr-22 08:55:17

It is extremely political Ladyleftfieldover. It appears these far-right Tories now have a group not of Blackshirts or Brownshirts but Blueshirts.

However, I doubt that many of those wearing the blue uniform had a choice about becoming a political force.

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 22-Apr-22 08:52:12

A Met spokesman said ‘…due to the restrictions around communicating…’ Page 5 of The Guardian.

Daisymae Fri 22-Apr-22 08:51:53

It looks like the electorate are being asked to vote on partygate as no one else will. If you have a local election coming up I guess that it's a civic responsibility to get along and have your say.