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Has Radio 4 lost their way?

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eazybee Mon 18-Apr-22 09:27:18

I used to listen avidly to Radio 4; now I hardly ever switch it on. I miss the balanced approach of John Humphries; find Nick Robinson's relentless sneering tiring (so different from his excellent reports from Ukraine) and Emma Barnett has over-politicised Woman's Hour, so it seems like an extension of Today.
Certainly my contemporaries are not listening as they used to, but older listeners are not regarded as relevant as I believe the BBC is targeting younger listeners. Whether this is working or not I have no idea.
[I remember listening to Patti Caldwell, but I did find her flat, monotonous delivery deadening.]

DaisyAnne Mon 18-Apr-22 09:26:08

And here we have it. One view about one, presumably older person, not liking one programme that would probably say about itself that it has updated to appeal to a younger audience.

And this proves what exactly?

LilacChaser Mon 18-Apr-22 09:21:55

My friend has stopped listening to Woman's Hour because she finds the 'wokeness' unbearable.

Farzanah Mon 18-Apr-22 09:20:54

Well it’s one political viewpoint, but I prefer opinions backed up by accurate facts, and snowberryZ, yours doesn’t appear to be because people do not appear to be switching off in droves.

Riverwalk Mon 18-Apr-22 09:20:18

Peter White the blind presenter of 'In Touch' for many years also presents 'You and Yours' the consumer programme - I'm sure at the start it took a bit of ingenuity and effort to accommodate his specific needs, but worth it as he's an excellent presenter with a lovely voice.

We shouldn't just stick to the status quo.

FarNorth Mon 18-Apr-22 09:17:27

SnowberryZ that article is from 2 years ago.
What is the situation now?

DaisyAnne Mon 18-Apr-22 09:16:10

snowberryZ

I'm not going to list every programme, but this link just about sums it up.

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/bbcs-100m-fund-for-yet-more-virtue-signalling-sorry-yet-more-diversity/

This article is a one-sided, prejudiced view that just happens to appeal to the bias of your thinking.

Can you show some actual unbiased research that backs your statement?

So far, all we have is what you want to believe produced by "Conservative Women". I would think it a tough ask to find a group more biased against the BBC.

Casdon Mon 18-Apr-22 09:13:38

Anybody who reads conservative woman needs to temper the rhetoric with a bit of fact.

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/oct/28/latest-figures-reveal-how-pandemic-shaped-uk-radio-listening-habits
media.info/radio/stations/bbc-radio-4/listening-figures

GagaJo Mon 18-Apr-22 09:11:24

Not exactly the most impartial publication. Anti trans, anti vax and a not-quite COVID denying article listed on the first few pages.

As Riverwalk says, why would we oppose diversity? It's a good thing.

volver Mon 18-Apr-22 09:10:39

And people are switching off in droves.

?

Parsley3 Mon 18-Apr-22 09:04:19

OK thanks for the link. It sums up the author's view very well.

Riverwalk Mon 18-Apr-22 09:04:12

I remember there was a furore when the late Patti Caldwell who spoke with a Lancashire accent was first on Radio 4.

In an interview she said she was told she sounded uneducated and there was pressure to drop her!

Riverwalk Mon 18-Apr-22 08:59:53

What's wrong with diversity and inclusivity?

I wouldn't want to return to presenters, programmes, plays, news etc., being made and presented by mainly white middle-class, Oxbridge men.

snowberryZ Mon 18-Apr-22 08:53:18

I'm not going to list every programme, but this link just about sums it up.

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/bbcs-100m-fund-for-yet-more-virtue-signalling-sorry-yet-more-diversity/

Polly73 Mon 18-Apr-22 08:47:38

How do we know people are switching off in droves?

Parsley3 Mon 18-Apr-22 08:46:01

Can you give an example of the R4 programmes that do this?

snowberryZ Mon 18-Apr-22 08:40:44

To think Radio 4 are obsessed with
inclusiveness and diversity at the expense of talent or content.

And people are switching off in droves.