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Utter madness. IQ of the nation.

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kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 12:56:57

Just watched an angry man on one of the news channels complaining that as he lives in the country he has missed his chance to say goodbye to the Queen! He thinks there should have been a procession round parts of the country away from London and they have deprived him of his rights.
No matter what you think of the monarchy she was a woman you didn't know so why would you queue for hours to walk past ?

Smileless2012 Wed 14-Sept-22 12:59:44

Why does it matter if that's what some people want to do?

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:01:12

It doesn't matter at all. It's just something to discuss.

nanna8 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:02:45

It is a tradition . The Chinese did it when Chairman Mao died, the Thais did it when their King died recently.Both beloved of their people as Queen Elizabeth was. A way to say goodbye for some.

FannyCornforth Wed 14-Sept-22 13:04:01

So are they ‘mad’, ‘stupid’, or as you suggest, both?
The news channels are running out of people to vox pop, I assume

Smileless2012 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:04:09

I see, but the title of your thread appears to suggest that it somehow illustrates the "IQ of the nation" and that it is utter madness, which is why I responded as I did.

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:04:25

I think the Russians do funerals best. Think it was Kruschev I watched.

FannyCornforth Wed 14-Sept-22 13:05:23

Three quarters of a million are expected to file past in London.
It’s a huge undertaking

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:06:25

FannyCornforth

So are they ‘mad’, ‘stupid’, or as you suggest, both?
The news channels are running out of people to vox pop, I assume

What do you think?I give no opinion.

Smileless2012 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:10:12

I think they are simply paying their respects.

ElaineI Wed 14-Sept-22 13:15:19

It gives a sense of finality I think and an opportunity to pay respect to someone who has devoted her life to the country. As to the man who was angry - we were beside people from Dundee, York and London who had travelled to Edinburgh. It was well organised and there were taxis laid on for those with mobility issues. I'm glad we went.

paddyann54 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:17:41

I thnk they need to get a life!I dont care how many of you it offends .Will some of you on NHS lists be happy if/when your op is delayed yet again because of the performance mourning on Monday when it seems we have to close the country down for the day? All for an overprivileged women most didn't know .

volver Wed 14-Sept-22 13:20:57

we were beside people from Dundee, York and London who had travelled to Edinburgh

You mean... you mean ... they weren't all Scots there to show how much we loved the late Queen by turning out in huge numbers?

Well I never.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:23:26

If people feel that they want to pay their respects to the late Queen Elizabeth II by visiting Westminster Hall or lining one of the roads the cortege has travelled it is their choice.

It is a significant moment in U.K. history, worth marking in whatever way suits the individual.

Smileless2012 Wed 14-Sept-22 13:23:31

I'm sure they have a life that they're quite happy with paddyann.

Mine Wed 14-Sept-22 13:31:56

I'm with you PADDYANN54. Everyone entitled to do their own thing in life but I think it is totally outdated to queue and camp out all night to walk passed a coffin....The amount of coverage thats been on TV let's you see the coffin perfectly..

Casdon Wed 14-Sept-22 13:34:29

It’s not much of a thread if you don’t give us your opinion kircubbin2000! Go on, tell us what you think?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 14-Sept-22 14:07:03

Perhaps she’s waiting to see which way the wind blows.

nanna8 Wed 14-Sept-22 14:26:40

You lot are so good at pomp and ceremony, very impressive. Just stunning. Good music,too - very fitting for a revered monarch.

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 14:35:05

Casdon

It’s not much of a thread if you don’t give us your opinion kircubbin2000! Go on, tell us what you think?

I don't like crowds so I wouldn't go but as someone said you can see it well on TV. The rest of my family are glued to the mall parade at the moment. I think the TV coverage has been too much. Daughter was down laying flowers yesterday.

kircubbin2000 Wed 14-Sept-22 14:36:15

Germanshepherdsmum

Perhaps she’s waiting to see which way the wind blows.

Yes I dont want to be sent to my room again!

Zoejory Wed 14-Sept-22 14:55:46

I think he did have somewhat of a point. I would not go down to London, nor Scotland nor anywhere to pay my respects. I am sad about the Queen and am happy enough to have a RF but I'd not have done this. Like most of us won't.

However many people do want to pay respects and be involved with the event and all that it is. Good job really or all this pomp and suchlike wouldn't;t be appreciated.

But I feel for many older people who would have liked to go. Some are ardent royalists but know that frailty of body means they would be unable to queue for 36 hours etc etc

I would have thought it better for the Queen to have done the whole journey by car. That way they could stop off at various towns and cities and people could have paid respects more locally.

Now it looks as if London is chock a block. People have started queuing for a funeral which doesn't take place until Monday. Hours to wait to see the coffin lying in state. It does make viewing impossible for many.

I'm not sure it's outdated or old fashioned to queue and camp out. Most of the population wasn't alive the last time we lost a monarch.

growstuff Wed 14-Sept-22 15:03:02

It was to be expected. Thousands of people queued to see Richard III's coffin in Leicester - and he'd been dead for hundreds of years.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-32014048

Prentice Wed 14-Sept-22 15:08:58

volver

^we were beside people from Dundee, York and London who had travelled to Edinburgh^

You mean... you mean ... they weren't all Scots there to show how much we loved the late Queen by turning out in huge numbers?

Well I never.

some people were on holiday in Scotland or there for business reasons so I have read. Of course, if you live in London there is no need to go far in order to see any royal procession, so we are lucky here.
I do understand why the man feels upset, but it is not possible for the funeral car to tour the length and breadth of England and Wales or NI in order for people to pay their respects as the late Queen passes by.
it is unkind to question IQ though in this case.

Beckett Wed 14-Sept-22 15:10:55

How is it "showing respect" to expect her body to be trundled around the country like a fairground sideshow? Why not have her mummified, encased in the glass sarcophagus and put on permanent display hmm