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Sasta Tue 04-Apr-23 14:15:17

This seems a bit pathetic to be annoyed about, but I was really irritated by this. We had Sunday roast dinner out at the weekend. It was a ‘posh’ gastro type pub, which added to the cost. I ordered roast pork my husband ordered the beef. Only the beef roast came with a yorkie so I asked if I could have one with my meal and they said that’s ok. The pork was to come with sage and onion stuffing, apple sauce and crackling, none of which was included when it arrived. I asked the waitress for the three missing items, and she brought me a one inch square of cracking in a little dish, and a tablespoon of very nasty brown apple sauce, (over-spiced and burnt tasting) but said the stuffing was all gone. Fair enough, if it’s gone it’s gone. Had she told me when ordering I’d have chosen the beef. However, when we got the bill, my £19 roast had £1 added for the miserable little yorkie. I’d assumed they’d bunged the runt on as it was overcooked and half the size of my husband’s yorkie. Very stingy at that cost I think. However, by the same token, they didn’t make a reduction for the missing stuffing that was ordered. Of course, we paid and didn’t say anything as it seemed very churlish, but so does not including a yorkie with all roasts? Rant over 🙄.

Nannarose Sun 21-May-23 12:49:56

I am totally useless at making Yorkshire puds (mother & both nans were excellent). Please don't give me your 'failsafe tips' as we've already done that.

However, when persuaded to make them (none of the family seem to care that they are flat) with lots of gravy - they are served FIRST on their own, as they were in my childhood. I think that eating them with the meal is a Southern thing that has spread - and restaurants would find it difficult to serve separately.

BlueBelle Sun 21-May-23 10:43:07

Eazybees did you not read the original she was missing three items off her plate that should have been part of the meal it wasn’t just about a yorky (but why shouldn’t you have a yorky with pork if you want it)

BlueBelle Sun 21-May-23 10:39:34

I don’t eat meat but always have Yorkshire puds with nut roast or Quorn slices or whatever non meat version is offered

I don’t think you need to follow rules of hundreds of years ago do you ….why? the same with sauces I have horseradish, mint, cranberry with any meal which ever I fancy on the day
We have a husband and wife run cafe here that do lovely roasts with about 5 or more veg, roast potatoes and yorkies (with whatever meat or alternative meat you want) plus an afters for £11.95 They don’t charge corkage so we take a bottle of wine with us if it’s a special meal

eazybee Sun 21-May-23 10:32:45

'an extra portion of vegetables'

eazybee Sun 21-May-23 10:31:13

Some restaurants are charging (£4.65 I saw yesterday) for an portion of vegetables not included in the description of the dish on the menu. I think it a cheek, and rather greedy, to ask for a Yorkshire pudding, not a normal accompaniment to roast pork, and then resent paying for it.

nightowl Sun 21-May-23 10:19:46

HousePlantQueen

Toddleo

Yorkshires only served with Beef in my house

Yorskshires served to whoever wants them in mine, even us deviant vegetarians with their nut roasts. As does my local pub.

And in ours HousePlantQueen! As a family of mostly vegetarians we have Yorkshire puddings, stuffing, mint sauce, gravy and anything else people want with their Sunday roasts! And with Christmas dinner too. I guess we’re just a family of philistines grin

We love nut roasts but we don’t always have one, sometimes we like to leave more room on the plate for all the rest blush

Glorianny Sun 21-May-23 09:58:22

Well it is probably completely wrong but any roast dinner requires YPs in our family, and we have them with Christmas dinner. My DSs make fantastic ones. As for the no stuffing with the roast pork that's completely unacceptable. They seem to have their portion control wrong. The meat and stuffing should run out together and they should just explain it is finished. Post a rotten review. they deserve it.

Primrose53 Sun 21-May-23 09:44:35

I would have complained at the time. £19 is too much anyway so I probably wouldn’t have gone there anyway.

Regarding yorkshire puds - bit of snobbery on here - yes we all know it’s traditional to have them with roast beef and if you want them with another meat, then have them! I am doing roast chicken today but my family love YPs so I will add some of those.

My late Dad grew up in a large, poor family and they had very cheap cuts of meat and veg with YPs and then they had extra ones after their meal which they would put jam on, eating them from the same plate. Often there was no meat. They were cheap to make and filled you up. also they were called batter puddings here not YPs.

Shelflife Sat 20-May-23 23:56:06

Yorkshire puddings are great with any meat , traditionally beef but toad in the hole is YP and sausages! I was born in West Yorkshire, Mum made a large YP when she cooked Sunday lunch - usually beef. We ate the YP first with tasty gravy after that we were served beef , roast potatoes and vegetables - but always YP first!

Sasta Fri 07-Apr-23 21:53:55

I did a review on Trip Advisor but won’t be going back there.

biglouis Fri 07-Apr-23 21:19:54

On the few occasions I have had an unsatisfactory meal I have not hesitated to complain and have always had ££ deducted from the bill. I havnt had occasion to recently but I am sure that a mere hint of a poor review would have the desired effect.

Chardy Fri 07-Apr-23 20:05:23

I eat where TripAdvisor recommends. My daughter belongs to a local internet foodie group, and an appropriate Facebook group.

Personally Sasta, I'd review the place on TripAdvisor. And no, there's no time-limit on a rant.

V3ra Fri 07-Apr-23 15:34:44

My Granny was renowned for being critical in restaurants. Her adult children took her out for meals but often cringed at her comments!

If we have a meal we're less than happy with we just don't leave a tip, though with the missing crackling/Yorkshire pudding charge I think my husband would have passed a light-hearted comment about that.

Sasta Fri 07-Apr-23 14:17:36

Thank you all. Just to reiterate, my extremely calm and chilled husband asked me a while back if I would ‘just let it go’ rather than complain in restaurants otherwise what should be a pleasure and a treat, is marred. He’s not so bothered about the food but more the occasion. I have no problem complaining properly with good grace, but am complying with his wishes. I was just really miffed at the cheek of charging for an extra item yet not deducting the cost of a missing item. I could certainly have challenged it had I not promised I’d ‘let these things go’. I think what is clear is that standards of dining out in general are going down. Not everywhere of course, but on the whole it’s pretty hit and miss. And I appreciate that we are lucky to have the opportunity and the health to get out and about for such experiences. Maybe I need to take up mediation instead of moaning online🤔. But I loved the suggestion of the staff eating the cracking (that would be me I’m sure).

RVK1CR Thu 06-Apr-23 16:59:41

Poppyred

I have no sympathy to be honest. You should have complained there and then not moan on a forum days later…….

Agree with this ^. Write a Review on Trip Advisor, Trust Pilot, or similar

4allweknow Thu 06-Apr-23 15:30:56

Last roast dinner out, I heard someone complain there was no yorkshire pudd with the roast chicken. Unbelievable.

4allweknow Thu 06-Apr-23 15:29:13

Not a usual accompanyment to roast pork nirmally, definitely roast beef. Unless stated on tge menu dont think the restaurant did anythibg wrong other than the miserable bit if stuffing

grannyro Thu 06-Apr-23 11:34:18

I would have pointed this out when the bill came up. It shows a bad level of service. However, my sister and I once went out for a pizza and she ordered a pizza which should have anchovies on it. When it arrived there was only one anchovy! We asked the waitress and she asked "do you want another one?" She then brought up a little bowl with just one other anchovy in it!

JenniferEccles Thu 06-Apr-23 11:23:27

When we order or buy anything whether it’s goods or a meal in a restaurant, we enter into a contract with the supplier. They provide the goods/ food and we pay the stated price.
If the food or goods aren’t up to standard or in the case of your meal, if some items are missing, the supplier has failed on their side of the contract if you weren’t offered a discount on the bill.

After all, if there was anything wrong with your money the restaurant would soon have complained and refused to accept it, wouldn’t they?

I do understand the reluctance to complain, but I think we should all try hard to overcome that.

As has been said, eating out these days isn’t cheap, so we have every right to expect everything to be up to scratch,

BlueBalou Thu 06-Apr-23 11:16:46

HousePlantQueen

Toddleo

Yorkshires only served with Beef in my house

Yorskshires served to whoever wants them in mine, even us deviant vegetarians with their nut roasts. As does my local pub.

I had no idea that you didn’t have Yorkshire puddings with roast pork; I cook them with any form of roast dinner and when I do sausage casserole or faggots with mash and onion gravy!

Witzend Thu 06-Apr-23 09:01:20

HousePlantQueen

Toddleo

Yorkshires only served with Beef in my house

Yorskshires served to whoever wants them in mine, even us deviant vegetarians with their nut roasts. As does my local pub.

Yes, many pubs now serve them with any roast - a lot of people expect them. And why not - an asset to any roast IMO.

My student landlady (Yorkshire in the late 60s) used to serve Yorkshire pud, with sultanas in and gravy, as a first course before the meat. I found it strange at first but certainly enjoyed it.
Does anyone still do this, I wonder? I do realise that it was originally to help fill you up so that less meat was needed.

lemsip Thu 06-Apr-23 07:47:59

been a few of these random meal out threads recently I've noticed.

Koalama Thu 06-Apr-23 07:39:12

That's a steep extra!! On a side line... I feel for you my mil would only have Yorkshire puds with beef, mint sauce with pork etc, I found it bizarre!! they were more southern than me, so assumed it was that, the poor woman nearly had a heart attack when she came to ours for Sunday lunch because regardless of what meat we had we always had Yorkshire puddings and stuffing and every condiment going lol...

Grammaretto Wed 05-Apr-23 22:29:34

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Toby Carvery in Edinburgh

Grammaretto Wed 05-Apr-23 22:26:22

The good thing about the Toby Carvery imo is you can go for a long bracing walk and then have your lunch anytime. The food isn't haute cuisine but it's always hot and tasty. In the one i last went to the service was excellent.