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Food bank rollercoaster. Huge empathy to Fury!! Is it just me?

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WhyWhyWhyohWhy Sun 04-Jun-23 18:54:54

I volunteer at a local food bank, there are several in my area. My role is to input into the computer the details of those who contact us so that they receive food from us which is usually delivered directly to their door with the exception of those who live closest to the distribution centre. People can self refer so no hoops to jump through and most of our users are also using the other food banks and charities where we live. I am a small cog in a big wheel, and just follow the rules of what I am asked to do, others make those rules.
We as a family are not well off but have the ability to manage our small income to make ends meet, if we can’t afford it we don’t have it, it’s that simple. I probably would qualify for help if I had our income and outgoings looked at but we prefer to stand on our own two feet. I was brought up not to waste resources and have tried to educate our children in the same way. I do know how lucky I am to be able to manage to get by. And here it comes…. The more I learn about the people who access our service the more flaming annoyed I get, there are genuine people who literally do not have enough coming in and to me this is who we should be prioritising and I get so annoyed that they are falling through the cracks and left behind. What I find more irksome is that week on week while the poorest fall further behind I receive what amounts to shopping/wish lists. Apart from those who have special dietary requirements such as Celiac disease and the like I am apt to think that folk should be grateful for any support that we can provide bearing in mind that we rely on donations from the public to redistribute, but honestly I do wonder if this monster that has been created actually helps the majority of our users to learn essential life lessons like budgeting at all? Some of the requests are to me outrageous so for example instead of asking for deodorant they ask for expensive brands like Dove this or that fragrance, last week someone requested freshly ground coffee which was a further step up from the usual requests for Nescafé, or Douwe Egberts, then there’s the mums who request really expensive formula and nappies to feed children they cannot afford whilst becoming pregnant with more children they cannot afford. Then there are those who obtain food so that they can buy illegal drugs with their money.
The icing on the cake this weekend has been from someone who has up until recently been given a store voucher one day and food the next day. The £25 weekly vouchers have stopped and the single person user isn’t happy because they usually buy fresh fish, meat and other ingredients with it and has now taken to contacting the local Conservative MP to complain. The irony of that isn’t wasted on me.
As a family of 4 who can rarely afford to buy fresh fish and meat ourselves but tries to be altruistic I’m getting a bit peeved at the rights over responsibility attitude of some people and I am beginning feel as though I don’t want to give or help, especially when the recipients are posting on social media their takeaways and grand days out.
I know I sound like a hard hearted bitch when in reality I know that you have to walk a day in someone’s shoes to know how it is for them but some peoples idea of being in desperate need completely contradict my knowledge of it. AIBU?

Saltpetre Fri 09-Jun-23 11:44:31

I often wonder the same thing about some of those using food banks, but it's not a think you can say aloud in real life! Any politician who dares say these things get shot down. But anyway here goes - while of course I am in favour of helping those who really need it, it seems the whole food bank thing has got out of hand, and having recently heard of teachers and nurses etc using them, made me think some perhaps use what money they do have for the wrong things ... as a poster says above, prioritising fags, booze, going out, Sky tv or whatever over bills and food.

Dickens Thu 08-Jun-23 18:26:59

Judy54

I recall a thread on food banks a little while ago where a post said that two suited and booted men came to collect food in their very smart car. It turned out that they were from the local Rotary club picking up food to take to people who were housebound. It just goes to show that we should never judge a book by its cover. Just because someone is smartly dressed or has polished nails tells us nothing about them or their circumstances. Indeed they could be kind hearted people picking up food for others.

Exactly this!

Doodledog Thu 08-Jun-23 16:42:12

I assume that anyone who can't get out will either have a carer or could ring a foodbank to see what provision could be made for them.

biglouis Thu 08-Jun-23 16:38:15

@growstuff

I did not say that "I" wanted a foodbank. Rather it was a legitimate question of how someone without transport was supposed to get out to find people to refer them.

Do try reading a little more carefully my dear.

Doodledog Thu 08-Jun-23 13:27:45

Well said, Judy!

Judy54 Thu 08-Jun-23 13:26:39

I recall a thread on food banks a little while ago where a post said that two suited and booted men came to collect food in their very smart car. It turned out that they were from the local Rotary club picking up food to take to people who were housebound. It just goes to show that we should never judge a book by its cover. Just because someone is smartly dressed or has polished nails tells us nothing about them or their circumstances. Indeed they could be kind hearted people picking up food for others.

DiamondLily Wed 07-Jun-23 16:14:27

Doodledog....we all get those moments 😉

Doodledog Wed 07-Jun-23 11:42:52

I've asked for it to be deleted. Apologies.

Doodledog Wed 07-Jun-23 11:41:51

Sorry - wrong thread smile).

Doodledog Wed 07-Jun-23 11:40:13

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

DiamondLily Wed 07-Jun-23 11:34:08

Perhaps I'm a little jaundiced at previously working for the DWP and then doing benefit advocacy as a volunteer.

Some people really don't prioritise essentials. 😉

Blondiescot Wed 07-Jun-23 11:20:19

Very true, Doodledog. And you know what they say about assumptions...

Doodledog Wed 07-Jun-23 11:17:00

Nobody is saying that nails of any sort should come before feeding children though.

People in food banks may or may not have children, and they may have a neighbour who does nails and will do hers in return for babysitting or something. People jump to conclusions about those on benefits and it's really not fair.

I would be the first to criticise someone who actually spent money on nails whilst her children went without food, but I don't believe that happens apart from in very rare cases, and I wouldn't assume that anyone with 'done' nails had starving children at home - it's just such a huge leap.

DiamondLily Wed 07-Jun-23 11:08:45

Doodledog

Fair enough, but you still have to wear a coat, don't you? And if you are skilful enough to make a fashionable coat with the cloth you have, shouldn't you get praise for that, rather than criticism?

Lol....yes, but if I had forty pounds left in my purse, I would prioritise feeding myself/children over gel nails.

I love gel nails, but I could live without them.😉

Not exactly an essential of life.

DiamondLily Wed 07-Jun-23 11:03:24

Blondiescot

DiamondLily - you can get gel nails done for less than £40 around here, and that's at reputable salons.

Oh, must be London prices then ...😉. Never cheap around here.

Doodledog Wed 07-Jun-23 10:56:24

Fair enough, but you still have to wear a coat, don't you? And if you are skilful enough to make a fashionable coat with the cloth you have, shouldn't you get praise for that, rather than criticism?

LRavenscroft Wed 07-Jun-23 10:10:37

Old wisdom: Cut your coat according to your cloth.

Blondiescot Wed 07-Jun-23 08:30:43

DiamondLily - you can get gel nails done for less than £40 around here, and that's at reputable salons.

FannyCornforth Wed 07-Jun-23 08:06:05

VioletSky

Someone with their nails done could work at a nail bar or have the experience to do it themselves or it could have been a gift for their birthday.

It's too easy to judge when people don't actually know

If a thread like this put off even one person from donating that could translate to a meal a week someone is going without.

Yes, I said much the same yesterday VS, the fact of having had one’s nails done is hardly synonymous with having money to burn (the new ‘huge flat screen telly’?)

Franbern - I loved your post! grin

DiamondLily Wed 07-Jun-23 08:00:27

Primrose53

Franbern

Where in this long thread, has anyone said that children going to school hungry (and, sadly yes there are far too many who are these days), have Mums who are spending on having their nails done????? Talk about adding 2 plus 2 and making 5!!!!

I have NEVER been to a nail bar, but understand that gel nails last for several weeks, so that forty pound charge is probably working out less than a fiver a week!!!! I have, sadly, been in the position of having to bring up a family on benefits and eeking out a small amount of money to provide meals, clothes and entertainment for my children. Week on week, month on month.......and I know the toll it took on my own mental and physical health!!! Fortunately, this was all a long time ago for me, but will never forget it. Anything that could have given me some sort of boost would have been worth while just to keep me going!!

Until someone has actually walked on the shoes of those who are struggling, perhaps they should not criticise.

Wow … justifying getting expensive gel nails rather than feeding your kids!

That money passes through their hands at some point and I still cannot imagine handing over £40 to a nail technician rather than buying £40 worth of groceries!

I am sure many of us struggled when we were young parents so we do understand and in those days there were no benefits other than “family allowance” for the first child! I was very often first in the queue at the PO to collect mine to get us through a couple more days. I can hand on heart say that every penny of mine went on my kids, not myself.

No, nor me. A basic haircut was my lot when the kids were little.

It's all about priorities when you have children.

Other than the nail bar "sweat shops", where the girls are worked non stop for hours, springing up everywhere, I don't know a decent place where gel nails only cost £40.

I'm getting mine done next week, by a reputable nail bar, and it's £55 plus extra if you want spray art/patterns.

There will always be scams, with benefits and things like food banks, there always have been, but, of course, the majority of people are genuine.

Professionally referred food banks work best. The self referral ones have become a bit of a free for all.

Blondiescot Wed 07-Jun-23 07:57:46

The 'oh but they can afford mobile phones' comment always amazes me. Clearly some people don't realise that you need a mobile phone to do so many things like applying for jobs now. They're an essential part of life for most people now.

Iam64 Wed 07-Jun-23 07:54:54

What about all those mobile phones and flat screen televisions? Luxury 😏.

Referring to hard pressed social workers as busy bodies buzzing around adds another judgemental layer to this. Absolutely bonkers

VioletSky Wed 07-Jun-23 07:20:51

Someone with their nails done could work at a nail bar or have the experience to do it themselves or it could have been a gift for their birthday.

It's too easy to judge when people don't actually know

If a thread like this put off even one person from donating that could translate to a meal a week someone is going without.

Sara1954 Wed 07-Jun-23 06:29:52

It’s very easy to be judgmental when you are looking on from a more comfortable position.
My husband always reminds me that we had practically nothing when we were first together, but the difference is, that we never considered it would last very long, and for a lot of families now, there doesn’t seem to be a way out of it.
There has to be a little joy in life, and while I think the children should always be fed before you get your nails done, if you manage to budget that in, and it makes you feel better, where’s the harm?

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 06-Jun-23 22:55:53

Oh and "social service busybodies" are not interested in foodbanks - they're just too ...well..busy, biglouis.