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vivvq Wed 05-Jul-23 16:07:12

I genuinely felt upset and then angry at today's royal event in Edinburgh. How much of our money did it cost?
We have already had a fortune spent on the Queen's funeral and the King's coronation at a time when families
can't afford to feed their children and people are waiting for years for essential medical treatment. When the BBC commentator announced that the eyes of the world were on Scotland I had to turn off the TV.

nadateturbe Sun 09-Jul-23 09:56:58

Mollygo

History of how anyone acquires wealth. Some work for it. Others acquire it by gaining power over others. Some inherit it. Some make money by dubious financial practices.

And your point is?....

Aveline Sat 08-Jul-23 07:21:57

Well said Mollygo. That's exactly it.

Mollygo Fri 07-Jul-23 23:32:07

History of how anyone acquires wealth. Some work for it. Others acquire it by gaining power over others. Some inherit it. Some make money by dubious financial practices.

nadateturbe Fri 07-Jul-23 22:49:48

Well, it depends on what you consider is their "own" money and we've been here before. History of how monarchs acquired wealth..........

Anniebach Fri 07-Jul-23 21:47:22

They do give generously but it is never made public

Elegran Fri 07-Jul-23 21:29:28

Nothing in the Sovereign Grant about charity donations. It looks as though those were made out of their own money, and without publicity - which is the correct way to donate.

Elegran Fri 07-Jul-23 21:24:18

The official financial statement was released very recently. It seems that they spent more than the Sovereign Grant due to the exceptional nature of the last year.

" In total, the Royal Household’s net expenditure was reported to be £107.5 million ($136 million), compared to the total Sovereign Grant of £86.3 million ($109.1 million) and the additional income of £9.8 million ($12.4 million).

The Sovereign Grant – an annual lump sum from the government – is essentially an expense account, covering the costs of travel, security, staff and the upkeep of royal palaces. The Royal family’s three main sources of income are the Sovereign Grant, the Duchy of Lancaster and Duchy of Cornwall estates and their personal property and investments.

“Official expenditure was more than the Sovereign Grant and the supplementary income earned, with net expenditure of £107.5 million ($136 million), a 5% increase on the previous year due to significant work relating to the Reservicing of Buckingham Palace and the costs associated with the change of Reign, as well as the impact of the Consumer Price Index rising by 10.1%,” Buckingham Palace said in a statement.

The high official expenditure saw the Sovereign Grant reserve reduce by £20.7 million ($26.2 million) in the last year. (The reserve is a kind of emergency fund for just this kind of overflow expenditure.

Callistemon21 Fri 07-Jul-23 20:28:41

nadateturbe

But GN contribute their own money.

I expect the Royal Family do too.

The Sovereign Grant to fund the monarch's official duties is separate.
It is funded from the Crown Estate.

You could check to see if they are cheekily making charitable donations out of the Sovereign Grant instead of paying their
staff or mending the holes in roof of Buck8ngham Palace.

www.royal.uk/media-pack/financial-reports-2022-23

Mollygo Fri 07-Jul-23 19:23:37

nadateturbe

But GN contribute their own money.

And GN contribute great entertainment.

nadateturbe Fri 07-Jul-23 18:56:45

But GN contribute their own money.

Mollygo Fri 07-Jul-23 16:28:48

LRavenscroft
I suppose the RF put on their empathy faces and promise a better world to those less fortunate (I must have missed hearing that promise) whilst wearing THE most expensive attire and attending THE most expensive events in the same way that everyone else does. On GN we talk about food banks and child poverty on one thread and buying expensive clothes, or food or where we’re going on holiday etc on another.
We don’t know how much the RF. or GNs contribute to charitable causes.

Farzanah Fri 07-Jul-23 15:40:40

Another irrelevancy but if you go back only 1,000 years all Europeans share a common ancestry any way, so it doesn’t really matter.

MayBee70 Fri 07-Jul-23 15:16:15

Alexander the Great was a pharaoh…( this is probably totally irrelevant to the thread but I’m in and out of the house today and not reading anything properly)

Callistemon21 Fri 07-Jul-23 14:45:59

The Greek Royal family was actually Danish!!

Callistemon21 Fri 07-Jul-23 14:44:14

Bijou

There were posts saying that Charles has Scottish blood. But Only from the Queen Mother. Before that there was all German right from George the first. George fifth had to change their name in the First World War.
Victoria a German, married a German. Prince Philip was mainly Greek.
Who pays for the life guards and all the horses who attend these ceremonial occasions ?

The German side of the family is descended from Mary Queen of Scots via James I and VI and his granddaughter Sophia of Hanover.
The Act of Settlement ensured that only Protestants (descended from Sophia of Hanover) could succeed to the British throne.

Callistemon21 Fri 07-Jul-23 14:34:49

Mollygo

They could borrow one from NS.

That's brand new and upmarket! 😁

Bijou Fri 07-Jul-23 11:51:18

There were posts saying that Charles has Scottish blood. But Only from the Queen Mother. Before that there was all German right from George the first. George fifth had to change their name in the First World War.
Victoria a German, married a German. Prince Philip was mainly Greek.
Who pays for the life guards and all the horses who attend these ceremonial occasions ?

LRavenscroft Fri 07-Jul-23 08:07:27

We live in the United Kingdom, that is what Kings do. I do however wonder how members of the royal family can put on their empathy faces and promise a better world to those less fortunate whilst wearing THE most expensive attire and attending THE most expensive events. Perhaps it is time everything was slimmed right down including those incredibly rich people who really should do so much more for charity to support the poorer people of our land. After all they are happy enough to live on British soil.

Calendargirl Fri 07-Jul-23 07:07:00

Babsbada

Complete waste of money. The country is in dire straits. We need every penny for nhs and children in poverty and homelessness among other ills.
Royals should put a hand in their own vast pockets and pay for these ridiculous events themselves if that's what they want.

Just listening to the News, droning on about the HS2 project with spiralling costs.

£4.9 billion quoted, and still counting.

Perhaps some of that money could be more usefully spent on the NHS, poverty and homelessness as it will end up another huge waste of money, benefitting very few in the long run.

Leave the Royals alone.

nanna8 Fri 07-Jul-23 02:24:51

The UK is not a ‘poor’ country. As with many rich countries the wealth is unevenly distributed. That is more the government though. The public can enjoy watching ceremonies, at least they get that back, a free show. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it.

Mollygo Fri 07-Jul-23 00:08:36

They could borrow one from NS.

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 23:17:17

Summerlove

Vintagenonna

I tripped over this by chance vivvq and share your response. If KC3 wants to give QCC yet another 'grand day out' it should come out of his very deep and largely untaxed pockets - not ours. I wonder how many free school meals could have been funded.

Other monarchies survive without this constant parade of subservience.

If the eyes of the world really were on Scotland, I suspect they would be expressing something other than admiration.

Are you really blaming the Queen for the King following his family traditions?!

Perhaps he should buy her a vintage campervan like Susan Calman's!
They could have lots of Grand Days Out 😂

Summerlove Thu 06-Jul-23 23:13:21

Vintagenonna

I tripped over this by chance vivvq and share your response. If KC3 wants to give QCC yet another 'grand day out' it should come out of his very deep and largely untaxed pockets - not ours. I wonder how many free school meals could have been funded.

Other monarchies survive without this constant parade of subservience.

If the eyes of the world really were on Scotland, I suspect they would be expressing something other than admiration.

Are you really blaming the Queen for the King following his family traditions?!

Mollygo Thu 06-Jul-23 23:00:26

Callistemon21

One minute the monarchy owns too many homes, when they do decide to downsize then someone, somewhere nearby feels snubbed 😁

Yes. And this post is a perfect example of that.
mabon1
Wales doesn't want him (so they should be grateful that he is not keeping a house in Wales)
But then
he has given up his Welsh house, so that shows how much he thinks of Wales and its residents
So in giving up a house that he doesn’t need, and preferring to stay locally in places he is visiting, he is in the wrong again, in the same post.
As my mum is wont to say,
He can’t do right for doing wrong.

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 22:41:31

One minute the monarchy owns too many homes, when they do decide to downsize then someone, somewhere nearby feels snubbed 😁