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OVERWHELMED BY WORLD EVENTS

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downnotout Sat 14-Oct-23 01:29:55

I might be way out of my depth here and this might not be the right place to put this on but here goes .
I have watched news from ‘abroad’,(I’m in Scotland but have travelled) from a ‘comfortable distance’ and been upset, shocked, very sad about the state of the world, be it wars, acts of god etc.
I am in my 60s now. Yes I did not live through the Second or First World Wars as my parents and grandparents did. I have only seen this reproduced very articulately in many films and heard stories. Yes we have lived through a Covid pandemic - many compared it to the Spanish Flue epidemic of 1918 killing over 215,000. And then of course, after that, the War. But I have never been so, not just touched, but devastated by the last few years of actually living through and acknowledging how dispicable men who crave war can be. And yes, I think it is indeed men. What do they crave? Land? Why? Power over reserves? Why? Power over people? Why?
Why are men so hell-bent on distructing? I am not a ‘reverse-misogynist’ but it is men who seem to have to always instigate and therefore manifest this un-harmony in the world. It is men who send our sons and their own to war to give up their lives.
I have travelled - not all over the world - but everywhere - everywhere- I have gone I have respected every country I have visited - their rules, their culture - and I have connected with so many lovely people from all walks of life just living their lives and happy to talk openly, to chat, to discuss different countries and ways of living, to laugh at the same things, talk about family, friends and even to be able to laugh at ourselves and our own countries eccentricities.
I am so saddened and appalled at what is happening now. Am I being unreasonable in thinking this? Does no one remember banter and laughter?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 17-Oct-23 11:01:47

I think every generation worried about the next generation.

Our GC are living their best lives they are sheltered from the horrors of the world, whilst being given an age appropriate explanation of the news.

The teenagers are more interested in recycling and their latest computer game and how well their footie team is doing.

It is not good for anyone’s mental health to constantly dwell on the negatives, look for at least one positive each day and focus on that.

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Oct-23 10:38:38

You have told us many times how wise you were not to have children biglouis and that was your decision.

However, just because it was wise for you does not mean it is necessarily the same for everyone.

biglouis Tue 17-Oct-23 09:08:48

Im glad I dont have any children or grandchildren. I have never regretted my wise decision to be childfree.

I watch the headlines once a day but try not to become emotionally invested in what happens outside in the world. There is nothing I can do to influence it. I just treat it like another netflix drama.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Oct-23 19:14:47

GrannyGravy13

BlueBelle

Certainly don’t agree thatcher was right to go to war for the Falkland’s henetha how would we feel if Argentina owned the channel isles we d want them back wouldn’t we ?
I agree that it’s mostly men and religion that take us to war
It’s all horrendous and scary I try not to dwell on it because I can do diddly squit to help anything

The Falklands have been British territory since 1690

Argentina was founded in 1816

I think by that reckoning they are far more British than Argentinian.

Yes.
I did post a history of Argentina and of the Falkland Islands on a thread a while ago but still the myth persists that they had belonged to Argentina.

Callistemon21 Mon 16-Oct-23 19:12:41

BlueBelle

Certainly don’t agree thatcher was right to go to war for the Falkland’s henetha how would we feel if Argentina owned the channel isles we d want them back wouldn’t we ?
I agree that it’s mostly men and religion that take us to war
It’s all horrendous and scary I try not to dwell on it because I can do diddly squit to help anything

Argentina never owned the Fakland Islands.

CanadianGran Mon 16-Oct-23 18:44:32

I admit to feeling overwhelmed by it all as well. As a grandmother, I worry about the future of my family and how they will manage in a world that is losing plant and animal species; most of mankind has forgotten how to manage a plot of land in order to feel self sufficient.

My DH has called me a bit of a news junkie, and I admit to watching the news every night, and checking websites during the day. While it's good to be informed about world events, I am finding them so upsetting these days, and the news is so graphic now.

I guess as individuals, we can be as tolerant and kind as possible, and do whatever small bit we can to lessen our impact on the planet.

OurKid1 Mon 16-Oct-23 18:25:07

I think it's people rather than men who are the cause. Remember though that, thanks to the internet and instant availability of news, we are so much more aware than our parents were. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Also as GrannyGravy13 said, good news doesn't sell newspapers and get us to watch television - sadly. It should.

halfpint1 Mon 16-Oct-23 18:17:18

I have limited myself to the headlines, feeling it would haunt me to look more.
Many films and dramas show the wheeling and dealing that
go on behind in politics always in an attempt to keep power
by whoever is at the top of the pile. I've always found that
so depressing and yes its mainly the men in suits.

ginny Mon 16-Oct-23 18:07:38

It is definitely overwhelming.
I have taken the decision to just keep up with the head lines so I know what is going on. However all the details and photos and films are just too much.
It is not burying my head in the sand but I can do nothing about it all. I’m sure I would go mad if I spent all my time worrying about all the dreadful things that are going on in the world .

GrannyGravy13 Mon 16-Oct-23 17:48:55

BlueBelle

Certainly don’t agree thatcher was right to go to war for the Falkland’s henetha how would we feel if Argentina owned the channel isles we d want them back wouldn’t we ?
I agree that it’s mostly men and religion that take us to war
It’s all horrendous and scary I try not to dwell on it because I can do diddly squit to help anything

The Falklands have been British territory since 1690

Argentina was founded in 1816

I think by that reckoning they are far more British than Argentinian.

BlueBelle Mon 16-Oct-23 17:44:29

Certainly don’t agree thatcher was right to go to war for the Falkland’s henetha how would we feel if Argentina owned the channel isles we d want them back wouldn’t we ?
I agree that it’s mostly men and religion that take us to war
It’s all horrendous and scary I try not to dwell on it because I can do diddly squit to help anything

GrannyGravy13 Mon 16-Oct-23 17:37:17

There is far more to rejoice about than worry about, remember good news doesn’t sell newspapers or get people to watch their tv screens.

I remember an old saying from my Great Granny

misery begets misery

Luckygirl3 Mon 16-Oct-23 17:35:05

I struggle to watch the news - but something tells me I cannot bury my head in the sand.

Why is the world like this now?:
- it always has been I think, but it is so more obvious with the advances in media, weaponry and travel.
- RELIGION, religion, religion. It deals in fundamentals and breeds fundamentalists.
- western interference and delusions of superiority that have drawn borders where none should be, divided nations and tribes, and destroyed indigenous cultures.
- Male domination and chest beating. Thatcher took us into a war because she wanted to out-man the men. I am not anti-men, but as Grayson Perry said: “^most violent people, rapists, criminals, killers, tax avoiders, corrupt politicians, planet despoilers, sex abusers and dinner-party bores, do tend to be, well… men^”

Is there anything we can do? I do not know - but I do know that it becomes harder to encourage GC to go for the delayed gratification option and get a tertiary education - I tempted to tell them to live for today.

Joseann Mon 16-Oct-23 17:32:32

Tragic news overwhelms me for a day or two, but then I have to move on and not allow it to engulf me. If I cried for a week it would make no difference and I'd just end up a wreck. There is still happiness around.

Shelflife Mon 16-Oct-23 17:25:37

I agree downnotout, I am completely overwhelmed by the news and DH has it on most of the day !!?
Men have huge egos and a minority of men have desire to control women. Incels are on the rise - women beware!!

JaneJudge Mon 16-Oct-23 17:23:21

I only listen to the news on the radio as it is on at work, watching it on tv has been making me feel anxious for months so I stopped a while ago.

karmalady Mon 16-Oct-23 17:20:36

yes Tabitha and we are very under-resourced in all ways. One of my dd works in munitions as well as the other being ex army. Incredibly worrying scary time

Fleurpepper Mon 16-Oct-23 16:47:24

if it spreads- then yes.

Tabitha1960 Mon 16-Oct-23 16:45:20

Are we on the brink of WW3?

karmalady Mon 16-Oct-23 16:39:41

we are a knife edge away from ww3 and we don`t have the resources to defend this country, in which terrorists are deeply embedded and hidden from plain sight. I try not to listen to the news but it is left right and centre everywhere

My youngest dd and her husband and her husband are ex army officers and they would be first to be called up. I think we are spiraling into an abyss. This from a most positive person who rarely has any negative thoughts

Dickens Sat 14-Oct-23 11:07:49

In the animal world, the males are the 'decision makers'. They also control (up to a point) the females. Both are 'territorial'.

Translate that into human behaviour and yes, it is, largely, men who instigate war. But then it gets more complex. It isn't solely about territory - the male ego has a lot to answer for.

Men like Trump, Putin, Kim Jong Un, etc, I believe all have massive egos that continually need feeding. Ego doesn't respond to reason or rationality; it has its own insatiable hunger which renders it totally immune to any suffering it causes in its drive to be 'fed'.

We women do also have egos, but I honestly don't think they are anywhere near as demanding as the male ego. Maybe because we are more in tune with the preservation of human life - because we actually give birth to it?

I once had an interesting conversation with a Muslim male who'd renounced his faith - and lost his family as a result (but that's another story). He told me the reason that men control women is, basically, because they have to make sure that the offspring of their women are theirs and that they are not giving shelter, sustenance, land - and inheritance - to another man's child! And the only way to do that is to control women completely! That's why any attempt to liberate women is a threat to their supremacy so grave that they will kill to preserve it. And they have devised a way to interpret Islam to fit this agenda.

That's one man's view anyway.

So, yes - maybe the world would be a better place if women were more in control - because our egos are in fact more amenable to reason, rationality, logic and compassion.

They say that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. Whoever thought that one up obviously never had to face the fury of a man whose sexual advances were rejected. There's a whole breed of men - incels - who are simmering with hate for women (and also the men who are more 'successful' with them) because they've been rejected - denied that 'right' to a woman that they think they have.

My late EX always preferred the company of women - of any age - in a social setting. He said they were, on the whole, just "nicer human beings". smile. Again, though - just one man's view.

Callistemon21 Sat 14-Oct-23 10:19:59

I don't think we should let this overwhelm us
Sorry, I should have said I agree although watching the news, it can feel overwhelming.

Callistemon21 Sat 14-Oct-23 10:18:42

I don't think we should let this overwhelm us

There's rarely been a time since WW2 when there hasn't been war or conflict somewhere in the world.
Or indeed, at any time in recorded history.

We must never forget the horrors of that war which lasted for six years so let's hope a peace can be negotiated soon and that other conflicts can be resolved.

Skydancer Sat 14-Oct-23 10:17:35

My DH, normally a cheerful chap, has asked me not to put the news on as he can't stand it. I am fearful for my descendants and just hope somehow, some day, common sense will prevail. But it seems many men just want to fight. Why is beyond me. There is plenty of everything - land and food - to go around. And fighting in the name of religion is crazy. What god would want this?

pascal30 Sat 14-Oct-23 10:14:43

I recently attended a Sufi W/E which focussed on peace, love. poetry and music.. it was very inclusive of other faiths and philosophies.. I am not a sufi.. . but I am baffled as to how this beautiful faith can have any common roots with what is being perpertrated by Hamas and Isis.. How can they claim to have the same God? and why would they want to wipe out another a beautiful religion the Jewish Faith.. surely we can live harmoniously and respect each other's faith without feeling that it in some way undemines our own beliefs. I personally am a Buddhist and belong to an interfaith group..
There are many interfaith groups having dialogues with other faiths and finding they have much more in common with each other than differences.. we all just want happiness and peace.. I wish these populist and fanatical religious leaders wanted the same for their people..at the moment I can only see the differences becoming greater