AIBU to think that a parent should be able to deal with a 10 year old threatening her with a hammer and garden shears?

You don't know all the facts, so cant judge anyone by your exoerience.

Pascal30
BlueBelle
You were not in the police force though? Apologies if I am incorrect
As the police officer was exonerated, twice, yet you continue to pass your own judgements, kindly do not accuse me of judging. The poor guy has suffered enough. The juvenile? Probably the best thing that's happened to her.

Oh dear Oldfrill how wrong are you? I have led about as far from a sheltered life as you can imagine
Very judgemental of you You have no idea !!

OldFrill

You are entitled to disagree with me. I suspect you've lead far more sheltered lives than l have. The police officer was exonerated twice, quite rightly.

And there you would be wrong Oldfrill.. I worked in a job which quite often required de-escalation procedures with adults and we never resorted to tasers or I might add, became injured by the person we were with..

You are entitled to disagree with me. I suspect you've lead far more sheltered lives than l have. The police officer was exonerated twice, quite rightly.

BlueBelle

Well I totally disagree OldFrill the policeman was totally out of control, he entered screaming and shouting the child started to RETREAT in fear and was tasered within seconds.
No explanations, no effort to talk her down, just screaming at her it’s horrendous Good grief, it’s awful

completely agree Bluebelle.. he tasered in 8 seconds.

Well I totally disagree OldFrill the policeman was totally out of control, he entered screaming and shouting the child started to RETREAT in fear and was tasered within seconds.
No explanations, no effort to talk her down, just screaming at her it’s horrendous Good grief, it’s awful

I watched the recording. I find nothing wrong with the police officer's actions.

certainly sounds like the parents are separated, else how could they have not discussed the issue.
he said the child, or house, was known to police, as the child had previously reported that someone had tried to strangle her older sister.
the implication is obvious.
also the allegation that the mother had been struck by the hammer, he said how come there was no mark of injury when she opened the door to police.
why did the police rush in, screaming at the child, who was retreating up the stairs.
and if she had committed offences, why was she not charged.
at the hosp the police demanded her phone, and its pin number.
he said this was dubious legally, as she had no access to legal advice.
she told her father later that she complied with this demand because she was terrified that she would be tasered again.
he did not mention blame in regard to himself, as far as i heard.

Is he an absent father? Did he accept any share of the blame?

heard the child's father, who rang in to LBC this morning.
seems there is a back story, and it is quite complex.
the father has not discussed what happened with the mother.
toxicology tests done at the hospital shewed no ingestion of cannabis; the father said that report was part of the gaslighting that the child was subjected to.
sounds like he holds not only the police responsible for what happened.

I have just heard the actual incident played on the radio
It was horrendous the child was crying ‘ow ow ow’
He tasered her TWICE within seconds of entering the house he is screaming and shouting at the child as soon as entering apparently she was standing still just holding the shears not brandishing them as a weapon
He has been cleared of course but that was not how I would expect a policeman to act
As he entered the house and saw the child holding the shears standing on the stairs (doing nothing) he immediately shouted well screamed ‘put that down’ and used his taser TWICE, afterwards he called paramedics to remove the two barbs from the child.

Very very wrong in my mind he should not be in charge of a taser because he’s obviously got no means of using a more suitable approach

many children just don’t deserve the lives they are born into

No, they don’t. And I don’t pretend to know the answer. However I’m pleased the police officer has been cleared. It can’t be an easy job, especially when called out to a child brandishing a weapon.

The policeman concerned has just been cleared of misconduct.
If the child was in danger with the weapons at her disposal then a night in hospital after being tasered could have been the best option.
We don’t know the circumstances but it all seems so sad.
So many children just don’t deserve the lives they are born into.

Iam64

It’s clear from reports that ‘this child had an awful lot to deal with as a young girl’.
biglouis - a good walloping never helped any one, child or adult, to improve their behaviour.

Violence begets violence and it is incredibly stupid naive to suggest that a big person hitting a small person is the solution.

Lots of unhelpful advice on how the police should deal with the situation, from people whom I doubt have any experience of police work, let alone dealing with children out of control.
Very relieved that the officer has been cleared.

A lot of criticism of parenting skills here, maybe we should walk in their shoes before commenting. If indeed the girl had mental health problems be aware it's very difficult to access services for children and often takes time. Some parents find it harder to cope with children for whatever reason and need support. Maybe we were fortunate in being able to cope with our children's traumas.

bet they wish someone had tasered that boy.

www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/marcia-grants-family-let-down-28196922

it's not always easy or straightforward.

BBC News - Met Police officer cleared after Tasering girl, 10
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67576994

Today's verdict.

He was initially cleared by the Met but the current investigation is by the IOPC, the ruling should be made today.

Iam64

Glorianny

The Met recently announced that they would not respond to calls for help with mental health problems. I think they should take the same attitude towards problems with children. They are not qualified to deal with disruptive children and inadequate parents.
If the child had eaten cannabis she needed medical attention, not police intervention.
That said the police shouldn't be tasering children, but I think few people would know how to deal with an aggressive 10 year old who had threatened her mother with a hammer and was now flourishing a pair of shears.

My experience is that in circumstances where a child is threatening their parent, is out of control with the potential for harm to the child or another person, medics won’t come out unless police officers are also called.
Mum called the police, not a paramedic/GP. There was a danger to the child or others. That’s the kind of mental health situation the police say they will continue to respond to.
The police are often very good at ‘dealing with disruptive children and inadequate parents’

I agree with your point that few people would know how to deal with an aggressive 10 year old who’d threatened her mother with a hammer and was now flourishing a pair of shears

I think though they aren't good at dealing with disruptive children and inadequate parents. Anyone who has dealt with these sort of families will tell you that once the episode is over the parents will resort to becoming defensive and blaming anyone who intervened. It's a common occurrence when such children are disciplined in schools. The teacher who dealt with the child becomes the target.

Start with talking and then step forward with an authroatative air and take them from her.

I must tell my daughter that this is all she has to do! She'll be so pleased that somebody knows what to do at last. 🙄

Most 10 y-o are as tall or taller than me

Smileless2012

The police officer involved was cleared of any misconduct.

I have only just come across this thread and I haven’t seen it reported but I’m pleased to hear that the police officer was cleared of misconduct. Other than that, I’m wondering where it was reported as I’ve not seen it. We watch BBC news every day and often ITV. We don’t buy a newspaper though.