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To be blindsided by DNA test?.

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Buttonjugs Fri 15-Dec-23 23:47:44

My eldest son is 43. I conceived him when I was 15 and at the time I was vulnerable and exploited to a degree. At first I thought the baby was due on the 29th November until I had a scan and discovered I was 20 rather than 30 weeks pregnant. I had a few contacts, 4 to be precise, but the dates matched with a 27 year old man I had slept with. When my son was born he looked like he was this man’s son. I never doubted it. Fast forward to last year, this man died and my son was contacted by an heir hunter because somehow they’d found out about the connection. My son had been to see him once as an adult so they must have exchanged details. I should explain that I have been estranged from my son because he got addicted to heroin and stole from everyone in the family and I find it hard to trust him, he is a pathological liar, He told me via WhatsApp that he had done a DNA test and wasn’t a match to this man. I have been sucker punched with this. The thing is he didn’t question me at the time he allegedly found out. I don’t know what to think. I did sleep with other people after this man and it might be that the scan was wrong, I was induced so didn’t go into labour spontaneously. In those days they induced you to get you out of the hospital and I was in with high blood pressure. So he may have been delivered early, it was a difficult birth with forceps.So there are 2 other candidates but he is so like the 27 year old man I can’t believe it’s not him., I am conflicted - is my son telling me the truth as he has a long history of lying or have I been wrong all along? Opinions welcome and advice to move forward. My mind is blown and I don’t knowmwhatmtomdo. Thank you if you have read this far.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 22:11:18

Times change I guess

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 22:10:11

Is one enough?

There are also news articles stating that remains have (awfully) been exhumed by heir hunters for DNA tests

Greyisnotmycolour Sun 17-Dec-23 22:09:46

Buttonjugs
Things are not a always as straightforward as some like to think. My heart goes out to you, the world is not black and white and sometimes issues are blurred. God bless.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 22:09:28

blanchardsltd.co.uk/when-is-a-relative-not-an-heir/

Bella23 Sun 17-Dec-23 22:06:14

VioletSky

Reading through a few websites it appears that heir hunters do do DNA tests now. Especially if there was no marriage or the father was not on the birth certificate

Heir hunters cannot do DNA tests without peoples consent it's impossible they need a sample of sputum. They work the family tree back and if they do not find siblings they look at cousins.
If two people use as others have said the same testing company , you will get matches with near relatives whom you have never heard of.It happened personally to me. I was contacted from Australia to see if I had any information on a relative who had obviously had an illegitimate child in Australia.Through the Ancestry website
.Of course there is usually no father named on a birth certificate nowadays but in other centuries the father was named and shamed and there can be marriages recorded , but women have affairs within marriage. That is why the Ancient Greeks and president days Jewish familys have a matriarchal system.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 21:57:35

Links?

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 20:32:41

Reading through a few websites it appears that heir hunters do do DNA tests now. Especially if there was no marriage or the father was not on the birth certificate

mokryna Sun 17-Dec-23 20:26:31

Once towards the end of my blood father’s life I left my name and address with telephone number on his mantelpiece, as I live in another country and he lived alone. When the time came the coroner contacted me. If your son visited what he thought was his father, he may have left his contact address with him and the police/coroner may have pasted this on to other people.
Of course the heir hunters were quickly on the trail but they never asked for me for a DNA test.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 19:49:08

Thank you MOnica.

M0nica Sun 17-Dec-23 19:43:52

VS Go back to the post Germanshepherdsmum made on Sat 16-Dec-23 10:21:56, to be found on page 1 of this thread.

In that thread GSM, who is a solicitor, shows quite conclusively that the tale the son is telling is impossible because if the way our legal system works and Heir Hunters work.

There is absolutely no reason why the OP should consider her son's story as anything other than a tissue of lies.

HousePlantQueen Sun 17-Dec-23 19:09:07

VioletSky

Addressing some of the comments:

Suffering with addiction doesn't equate to "liar". Addiction usually manifests due the person having unresolved trauma

To OP:

I would take what he is saying at face value and get yourself some help to cope with this news. It will be difficult for your son too, especially as he must be able to do the maths and know that your teenage years must have been troubling for you

Drug addicts are liars. Anyone involved in their world will confirm this.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 18:38:53

Actually you are twisting my words which may cause the upset that you wish to avoid

Comments are being removed from this thread so I would suggest this stops now and people focus on OP instead

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 17:59:18

Thank you all.

Bella23 Sun 17-Dec-23 17:37:54

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Smileless2012 Sun 17-Dec-23 17:35:44

Suggesting that someone may be responsible for her son's addiction, and that he suffered from childhood trauma is unnecessarily cruel yes it is Doodledog.

Posters questioning and/or disagreeing with your posts has nothing to do with personal animosity VS. If it were, there'd be no discussion and no debate.

Doodledog Sun 17-Dec-23 17:30:46

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VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:39:15

Perhaps you should keep your personal animosities towards myself away from vulnerable people's threads

Doodledog Sun 17-Dec-23 15:36:57

Look at what you have said to the OP, and think about disparaging of character, VS. GSM is right.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:32:40

Actually I do have qualifications that apply

But OP would like the truth and I think suggesting a path to that is helpful or I wouldn't be saying it

Aces and trauma aren't tied to parenting

I hope you are finished disparaging my character unnecessarily now GSM

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 17-Dec-23 15:28:21

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VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:20:40

It's recommended with addiction

Especially for overcoming addiction and rebuilding trust

JaneJudge Sun 17-Dec-23 15:17:08

VioletSky

I think family therapy could prevent or reconcile many estrangements

But it’s not recommended if either party is abusive.

VioletSky Sun 17-Dec-23 15:14:02

I disagree but then, I wouldn't be commenting any further if I weren't addressing those trying to argue against my words addressed to OP

Iam64 Sun 17-Dec-23 14:54:47

I’m not disputing the usefulness of family therapy in some circumstances. It’s never a cure all and totally inappropriate in these circumstances