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SuzyQqq Tue 18-Jun-24 07:38:24

I needed a new foundation and wanting to buy a replacement for one I had bought a while before from Este Lauder. I popped into the Mall at Cribbs Causeway near Brisol and headed to John Lewis who I knew were a stockist. This was the main purpose of my visit. On arriving at the counter in store there was only one assistant who looked like she was advising another customer. The customer was sat on one of their stools and having some eye shadows applied . I looked around the counter to see if I could see the foundation and shade I wanted but it didn’t seem to be out and I know they are sometimes kept behind the counter in their stock drawers. No other assistants were around and I hovered a while to see if the other lady’s consultation was coming to an end, but it seemed ongoing , so I moved a little closer and asked the assistant if I could just quickly check whether they had an item in stock . I thought given she was the only one available this would be acceptable and she may be able to point in me in the right direction whilst then carrying on with her customer. However before she could reply the lady seated on the stool said in a loud voice ‘ How rude ! Do not serve her. Carry on attending to me !’ The assistant looked a bit shocked but obviously didn’t know what to do . Neither did I . I hadn’t thought it was too unreasonable in the circumstances. But to avoid further confrontation I just turned and walked away . I went to Boots and bought another brand and then went home. Was I being unreasonable? Please can someone advise on beauty counter decorum and the do’s and don’ts in these situations? Thanks 😊

AreWeThereYet Tue 18-Jun-24 14:29:45

NanaTuesday

Sarnia

So you were asking to go behind the counter and rootle through her stock drawers whilst she was dealing with a customer. Why couldn't you just wait your turn? I think you were the rude one here.

I do not think ,that the OP was saying she would do that at all !

^ so I moved a little closer and asked the assistant if I could just quickly check whether they had an item in stock ^

That's what it looked like to me too. Apologies if I've misunderstood.

NanaTuesday Tue 18-Jun-24 14:26:43

Sarnia

So you were asking to go behind the counter and rootle through her stock drawers whilst she was dealing with a customer. Why couldn't you just wait your turn? I think you were the rude one here.

I do not think ,that the OP was saying she would do that at all !

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 18-Jun-24 14:25:42

keepingquiet

I don't think you were necessarily out of order but clearly weren't expecting such an extreme reaction to your question.

I would have been tempted to seek out the management (yes, I frequently do this!) and complain about the staffing levels.

The customer was not wrong either, as she was interrupted.

I don't think there's any real right or wrong here but the store should have enough staff, as simple as.

You don’t know why there was only one assistant at that time. One on her break or off sick? I certainly wouldn’t complain to the management. I’m not one of life’s complainers - it’s too short. I do, however, pick my battles.

AreWeThereYet Tue 18-Jun-24 14:21:35

Yes you were unreasonable to ask if you could go through the stock drawers - it's a bit like going through the till at the bank to see if they had the right change for you.

I think I would have apologised to the other customer first before interrupting the assistant but the other customer was extremely rude and I don't blame you for walking out.

I would have asked at another counter to see if they could help and browsed around a bit before interrupting. Then just asked the assistant if there would be anyone available to help me soon. If not, I'd have gone elsewhere.

keepingquiet Tue 18-Jun-24 13:27:38

I don't think you were necessarily out of order but clearly weren't expecting such an extreme reaction to your question.

I would have been tempted to seek out the management (yes, I frequently do this!) and complain about the staffing levels.

The customer was not wrong either, as she was interrupted.

I don't think there's any real right or wrong here but the store should have enough staff, as simple as.

Calendargirl Tue 18-Jun-24 13:19:29

Perhaps the OP should have said “Excuse me interrupting, could I just ask if you have any ….in stock? If so, am happy to wait until you’re free”.

Hopefully, the assistant would have known and said, yes or no. If she didn’t know without looking, would have to say she would look when finished.

Theexwife Tue 18-Jun-24 13:14:49

The customer was rude, however as there was only one assistant maybe she had been interrupted a few times, it doesn’t excuse her though.

rubysong Tue 18-Jun-24 12:53:19

The shop was at fault offering time consuming beauty treatments and selling with only one staff member there. Difficult for everyone concerned.

TerriBull Tue 18-Jun-24 11:41:05

Slightly different scenario, but when I'm having my hair done, often a customer will walk in wanting to book an appointment, or buy a hair product, if there isn't anyone on the desk which is often the case, my stylist or another will say "just excuse me whilst I see to this customer" what else can they do? they can't leave that person just standing there. Similar situation to yours OP, good grief that woman sounded a right entitled Duchess. I don't think you were being unreasonable, under the circumstances the assistant should have excused herself whilst she served you.

Having said that, I do object to someone barging up with an interruption whilst the customer is at the till in the throes of paying, that happened to me once and the shop assistant gave me the wrong change.

Blossoming Tue 18-Jun-24 11:26:07

No you’re not being unreasonable, that customer was being very rude.

SuzyQqq Tue 18-Jun-24 10:29:55

I’ve reflected on it a fair bit since the incident and also thought that it the same situation again I’d go to another of the counters to ask someone else like you’ve suggested. It was one of those things that just happened at the time . I guess I didn’t think too much of an asking quick question . But the other persons response really shook me up at the time, as I’m a relatively calm quiet person who’d hate to appear rude.

flappergirl Tue 18-Jun-24 10:29:37

I'm not sure whether you were asking to look through her stock drawers behind the counter? In which case that would not be permitted and would be rather like getting behind the bar at a pub and serving yourself a pint.

On the other hand, the assistant should most certainly have acknowledged your presence and given you some indication of her intentions. The free make up sessions offered by John Lewis can take at least an hour and it would be extremely unreasonable to expect another customer to wait that long.

The fault lies with the store which clearly hasn't offered adequate training for such a scenario and is clearly under staffed.

To be fair, they are primarily a retail store and not a beauty parlour.

pascal30 Tue 18-Jun-24 10:22:05

I would have gone to another beauty stall and asked someone there to go and check the drawer. I know they all help each other.. I think the other customer sounds very rude and entitled..

Dickens Tue 18-Jun-24 10:21:31

Given that you simply wanted to ask a question to which, presumably, the answer would've been a yes or a no, and that you had absolutely no idea how long you would have to wait to ask it - I think it's perfectly reasonable to politely excuse your intrusion for an exchange that would probably have lasted for a few seconds.

Then you would've known whether it was wroth hanging around for 10 / 20 / 30 minutes.

Of course, the store could employ more than one assistant on that counter, but that would raise their costs, so you pay the price for the cost-cutting.

But so do they - how many customers will they lose? If I'd seen a woman in the process of being made-up, I'd simply have walked out. If I'd been the assistant I would have politely excused myself from my current customer and told the prospective one roughly how long I'd be before becoming available.

Patsy70 Tue 18-Jun-24 09:59:58

You behaved perfectly reasonably. The customer was unnecessarily rude.

Spinnaker Tue 18-Jun-24 09:29:03

I think my immediate response to the woman accusing me of being rude would have been "If you want rude lady, look in the mirror !"

SuzyQqq Tue 18-Jun-24 09:07:01

Just to clarify at no point was I expecting to rummage around behind the counter. I simply wanted to know if the item was still stocked and so may be worth either hanging around for or coming back for another time.

RosiesMaw Tue 18-Jun-24 09:01:32

Sarnia

So you were asking to go behind the counter and rootle through her stock drawers whilst she was dealing with a customer. Why couldn't you just wait your turn? I think you were the rude one here.

I’m not sure we are hearing the full story-
First of all, behind the counter is always “off limits” for customers for reasons of security- shoplifting is apparently increasing at an alarming rate- and also just not convinced about the (exaggerated?) reaction of the other customer .
There are two sides to every story- sometimes a third!

Curlywhirly Tue 18-Jun-24 08:58:26

Marmight

Not rude at all. I’d be fizzing. Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman comes to mind! ‘Big Mistake’! When I’m having treatments in my local salon, (for which I pay a hefty amount) the assistant sometimes excuses herself to attend to a ‘walk-in’. I don’t mind. If everyone was kind & sensible and less selfish it’d be a better world.

Exactly! 👏👏👏

Marmight Tue 18-Jun-24 08:54:03

Not rude at all. I’d be fizzing. Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman comes to mind! ‘Big Mistake’! When I’m having treatments in my local salon, (for which I pay a hefty amount) the assistant sometimes excuses herself to attend to a ‘walk-in’. I don’t mind. If everyone was kind & sensible and less selfish it’d be a better world.

sassysaysso Tue 18-Jun-24 08:41:31

In real life, I'm coming round to the view that those who accuse others of rudeness are generally the one being rude, in extreme cases even breaking the law.

Sarnia Tue 18-Jun-24 08:39:45

So you were asking to go behind the counter and rootle through her stock drawers whilst she was dealing with a customer. Why couldn't you just wait your turn? I think you were the rude one here.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 18-Jun-24 08:39:24

I am undecided on this.

I have made appointments (with Estée Lauder) for makeup trials/sessions when I had big events or family weddings coming up and I wanted to refresh/change my look.

Having booked an appointment and taken time out of a busy working day I would not have taken kindly to having that session interrupted by another customer/s however, I would not have reacted rudely. (I am by nature not a rude person)

In my opinion the assistant should have noticed you hovering and said sorry, I will be with you in ^x minutes^

Curlywhirly Tue 18-Jun-24 08:38:35

I don't think you were rude at all. You were only asking if something was in stock.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 18-Jun-24 08:34:52

I think you were rude to expect attention when the assistant was otherwise engaged.