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Expected Inquest Verdict on Wimbledon School Tragedy.

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Pammie1 Thu 11-Jul-24 14:15:22

It was announced a few days ago that Claire Fremantle, the driver of the car which crashed through a fence and killed two school children at the prep school when it hit the building, will not face any charges because the medical evidence supports the fact that she had a seizure at the wheel and was unconscious throughout the event.

I believe the inquest will be held in the next few days, at which time the reasons behind the decision will be made clearer. There has been a thread over on Mumsnet, which descended into a bunfight when posters took a driver versus victims stance in terms of the amount of sympathy they had for the parties involved. The question posed was ‘Am I being unreasonable to have sympathy for the driver’.

My own feeling is that if the driver was genuinely in the throes of a seizure, and had not previously been diagnosed with any form of seizure related illness, then no blame can be apportioned. I just wondered what the consensus would be on GN, given that the general tone of threads tends to be more measured and thoughtful and less inclined to throw insults in disagreement with other posters.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 11-Jul-24 14:18:25

I do not think the driver is responsible, there by the grace of god go any of us.

MissAdventure Thu 11-Jul-24 14:21:40

I would certainly have every sympathy for her, providing she genuinely was having a fit, which she had no inkling was going to happen.
What a thing to have to live with such a devastating result.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 11-Jul-24 14:22:43

As someone with epilepsy whose first seizure just happened out of the blue, but fortunately not at the wheel of a car, I absolutely agree GG. It can happen to anyone with no prior warning.

Sarnia Thu 11-Jul-24 14:27:18

I hope the inquest makes it clear to all concerned the reason for the police not taking this lady to court so that the families, friends and school staff can understand and start to rebuild their lives. They will never forget but neither will this poor lady who was taken ill out of the blue. She will struggle to come to terms with this tragedy as much as those close to the 2 little girls. There are no winners here.

JaneJudge Thu 11-Jul-24 14:38:43

This is the story

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/26/wimbledon-school-crash-driver-will-not-face-prosecution-says-cps

It was a tragic accident. I can understand the parents feeling angry too though

Bumface Thu 11-Jul-24 14:42:09

Some years ago I read about a case when a man was driving his works van along the road and there was a tiny child running along the pavement. There was a zebra crossing and the man slowed but did not stop as there was nobody waiting to cross.

Without any warning, the child ran straight across the crossing and was hit by the van and killed.

It turned that the child was only four years old and had been running towards an ice cream van parked further down the road on the opposite side. Tragic for all concerned.

Luckygirl3 Thu 11-Jul-24 15:10:41

It could indeed happen to anyone.

I am just slightly puzzled as to how they knew it was a fit that happened at the time of the accident. I can see that they might do an EEG after the accident and record that she either was or wasn't having one then, but not how one can be sure it was happening at the moment when the accident occurred.

But if this is the case, the poor woman has to live with this awful thing for the rest of her life - just as the families of the children do.

It is all very sad indeed.

JaneJudge Thu 11-Jul-24 15:11:42

did she have a passenger/s in the car?

Chestnut Thu 11-Jul-24 15:16:53

Bumface

Some years ago I read about a case when a man was driving his works van along the road and there was a tiny child running along the pavement. There was a zebra crossing and the man slowed but did not stop as there was nobody waiting to cross.

Without any warning, the child ran straight across the crossing and was hit by the van and killed.

It turned that the child was only four years old and had been running towards an ice cream van parked further down the road on the opposite side. Tragic for all concerned.

That makes me so angry. I held onto their hands all the time at that age in case of a sudden change of direction like that. I would never let them run or skip along the pavement on their own until I was certain they had learnt road safety.

sodapop Thu 11-Jul-24 15:29:22

A great tragedy all round, as Luckygirl said the families and driver will have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 11-Jul-24 16:21:31

So did I Chestnut. The only person to blame in the case of that poor child was the one who was supposed to be looking after them.

MayBee70 Thu 11-Jul-24 17:49:01

Chestnut

Bumface

Some years ago I read about a case when a man was driving his works van along the road and there was a tiny child running along the pavement. There was a zebra crossing and the man slowed but did not stop as there was nobody waiting to cross.

Without any warning, the child ran straight across the crossing and was hit by the van and killed.

It turned that the child was only four years old and had been running towards an ice cream van parked further down the road on the opposite side. Tragic for all concerned.

That makes me so angry. I held onto their hands all the time at that age in case of a sudden change of direction like that. I would never let them run or skip along the pavement on their own until I was certain they had learnt road safety.

If, when I’m driving, I see a child by the side of the road that doesn’t have an adult holding it’s hand ( or obviously interrelating with them and not eg on their mobile phone) I always assume that they might run out into the road. Assume the same if I see a dog on an extending lead. That happened to us last year and the owner didn’t even seem to realise that the dog had ran into the road and back onto the pavement again.

eddiecat78 Thu 11-Jul-24 19:07:01

I was absolutely disgusted that the Daily Mail published a photo of this poor lady last week.
My beloved granddaughter has recently developed epilepsy which came out of the blue. An EEG did show abnormal brainwave activity for her but we were told they frequently don't reveal anything unless a seizure happens during the test.
A driver could collapse for several reasons beyond their control - sadly unavoidable accidents can happen and the driver should not be held responsible in these circumstances

Sago Thu 11-Jul-24 19:26:47

Her name and photograph should never have been published.
Poor woman and poor children.

MissAdventure Thu 11-Jul-24 19:33:59

I agree.
It's a terrible, tragic accident.