Dogs in coffee shops

It saves me a fortune. I dislike dogs and don't see why I should pay money to eat in somewhere dirty, which dog friendly places will be. I too have seen staff fuss dogs and then handle food.

We recently had a week in the Yorkshire Dales and because every cafe and restaurant seemed to be full of dogs we didn't spend a penny supporting those businesses.

We ate at our beautifully clean (no dogs allowed) rented cottage or took packed lunches and had a wonderful time.

Also, I hope you feel better soon.

@Grammaretto, if the dog has done this before, then it is classed as a dangerous dog and has an irresponsible owner. If you were to report the incident to the police, they would have the power to make the owner comply with muzzling at the very least. Sadly, if it has bitten more than once it will have a taste for blood and could potentially kill a small child. I really dislike the idea of animals being put to sleep, but in the case of a dangerous dog it is sometimes, sadly, the only answer. Your post illustrates only too well the problems that can arise with allowing dogs in coffee shops and restaurants

Thanks that's interesting. The bite punctured the skin. I felt sick and faint - shock. I washed and dressed the wound, with help, phoned my surgery who said to phone 111.

They said to take painkillers and check my tetanus jags are up to date.
My hand has swollen and is red around the plaster so I may phone back. I can't believe it warrants a trip to A&E.
The dog should be muzzled definitely. Apparently he had done this before.

If the skin was broken Grammareto you may need antibiotics. My wrist had a tooth mark from my lab after he responded a an assault by a German shepherd - my arm got in the middle as I yanked him away. This was Saturday, I kept it clean got stuff from the pharmacy. By Monday it was looking infected. Our GP phoned in response to my call. He prescribed the strong antibiotics recommended for even minor bites. Mine was the shape of the end of a tooth, minor but the doctor said to go in to surgery if it hadn’t cleared in 7 days. It didn’t.

I'm sorry to hear that Grammaretto it's a shock when something like that happens. Do make sure you keep the wound clean and watch for signs of infection.
Take care.
I agree with you RosiesMaw this subject has been done to death. The two sides will always have their differences. I speak as a dog lover but don't expect everyone else to feel the way I do.

Grammaretto
What a nasty shock.
I hope your hand is OK.

I was bitten on my hand today by a dog at a café.
It was painful and shocked me. I wasn't badly hurt but felt faint. The owner of the dog quickly left with her dog and another lady got me a glass of water and walked me home.

I hope she muzzles him before he bites a child.

Regarding silly owners. Sometimes it is the cafe owners that add to the problem. One cafe near us really encourage dogs. The moment you sit down with a dog the guy appears with a dish of sausages for the dog.
All very well you might think but as we all know dogs have very sensitive noses so every time he passes with a dish of sausages some dogs get excited and stand up in expectation !
Another cafe, owned by a farming family completely ignore the dogs and don’t make eye contact. As a result the majority of dogs behave very nicely
Having said that living in north west Wales, the coffee shop owners rely on the visitors and if they have dogs they are welcomed as they need to live for twelve months and the season is comparatively short
As a side line we have 3 holiday cottages and dog owners tend to leave a cottage much cleaner and tidier than those with children

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“For this relief, much thanks”
There’s been too much banging on about dogs in shops, dogs in coffee bars, dogs in pubs, dogs in houses - I’ll be in the dog house now, but surely it has all been said ad nauseam by some, and equally refuted by others.

Rekarie

I'm not having it . I'm not saying that homes don't smell doggy, of course some do. Totally agree that wet dog is an awful smell. However not all houses with dogs smell. A lot to do with the breed.

As for a Google search! Really? Well try googling about smelly humans. Bacteria that is left in all manner of places. By humans. Faecal matter. It's eye opening.

Give me a dog over many humans.

Also, working dogs don't tend to be pets. So maybe not a dog liver.

What a nasty, spiteful and ignorant comment to make.

“So maybe not a dog lover”. I have already told you I love dogs.

Of course working dogs can be pets. They know exactly when they are “on duty” and when they’re not.

My son’s mate is a Police DogHandler and his dog is also a much loved family pet. Shepherds, farmers, guide dog owners, wildfowlers would all disagree with you I’m sure.

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Or dog lover even

I'm not having it . I'm not saying that homes don't smell doggy, of course some do. Totally agree that wet dog is an awful smell. However not all houses with dogs smell. A lot to do with the breed.

As for a Google search! Really? Well try googling about smelly humans. Bacteria that is left in all manner of places. By humans. Faecal matter. It's eye opening.

Give me a dog over many humans.

Also, working dogs don't tend to be pets. So maybe not a dog liver.

Than you Musicgirl. I think some people take it personally when you say all houses have a whiff of dog about them or you hate dogs!

I love dogs and have always had them but don’t want them in places serving food. Wet dog smell is dreadful.

We have a holiday let and as soon as I go in to clean I immediately know if they have had a dog in there. I charge an extra £20 a week for a small dog because of the smell, the line of dog hairs along the bottom of sofas, hairs on the bedding, dog biscuits spilt on conservatory floor etc but often people try snd sneak them in without paying.

If dogs don’t smell, how come if you google How to stop dog smells you will find pages and pages of tips. People get used to the smell and can no longer smell it rather like when you wear perfume you stop smelling it on yourself.

Thank you MissI.

I don’t care what anybody says - dogs kept inside make houses smell.

Wrong.

Thank you, Primrose. Your explanation makes sense. I have been flamed for daring to suggest that dogs smell, but they do. In the same way, cats, hamsters, pet rats and any other domestic pets have their own odour. It is a fact of life and we have to accept it if we want to share our homes with furry friends. I was extra aware as until this past year I had multiple people come in the house each week as I taught music mainly from home (l have semi-retired and only have a few pupils now). In fact, when we were considering getting a dog twelve years ago, we had three criteria: 1) a breed that did not shed because of allergies, 2) a breed that would not take up half the room by himself and 3) a beeed that was generally known to be friendly because of all the people who came to the house. We chose a Cairn Terrier and he has fulfilled and exceeded all our expectations. He is very friendly and loving and has helped many children to overcome a fear of dogs to the point that several families went on to get their own dog. Even so, I am not blind to the fact that even though I and the family think the world of our own dog, to everyone else he is just another dog and not everyone is a dog lover. As for equating human hygiene with canine hygiene - yes, therr are some very dirty people out there, but the vast majority keep themselves clean. Also, how many humans greet each other by sniffing each other's bare bottoms, or pick up dead birds and animals by mouth, never mind rolling in noxious substances with great glee?

Kate1949

Can I ask a question please? There is a lady around here who walks a spaniel every day. The dog is never on a lead. It just runs around and she walks behind. It's never bothered me or anyone else that I know of. If I see it running about, I don't go out. This is the only dog around here that isn't on a lead. Is this ok or against the law? I'm just interested.

I can't speak for the whole of the UK, but here in Scotland, there is no blanket law requiring dogs to be kept on a lead in all public spaces. However, there are a series of orders that mean you may have to leash your dog in certain places in your local area - such as children’s play areas, sports pitches, roads, parks and beaches.
The Highway Code also says that dogs should be kept on a short lead along roads and on paths shared with horse riders or cyclists (rule 56).
Many local authorities have introduced Public Spaces Protection Orders over the last couple of years to restrict dogs to being walked on lead (or excluded from the area entirely) in certain public spaces.

Gosh, what a lot of fuss about our spaniel being kept in an outhouse.😱

Poor choice of words by me, she SLEPT at night in there. She was a working spaniel and came from the top spaniel breeder inN Norfolk who kept all his dogs outside.
The rest of the day she had free run of the garden when she was not working.

Those types of dogs love being outside, they don’t like being in centrally heated houses. A farmer down the road has kept every single dog he has ever owned outside. Most of them lay on a mat at the backdoor. A woman in the village bought a pup from him and couldn't believe it was only ever happy when it could lay near the back door. She wanted it on the sofa with her to fuss it but he was having none of that!

I don’t care what anybody says - dogs kept inside make houses smell. The owners get used to the smell. I have had dogs all my life until about 5 years ago and didn’t think my house had a smell but our hoover packed up and we fetched a spare one in from the garage and the smell was dreadful as it was full of dog hairs etc. that was from just one little Border Terrier X.

Can I ask a question please? There is a lady around here who walks a spaniel every day. The dog is never on a lead. It just runs around and she walks behind. It's never bothered me or anyone else that I know of. If I see it running about, I don't go out. This is the only dog around here that isn't on a lead. Is this ok or against the law? I'm just interested.

Give your dog a good brush and comb as often as the breed coat needs. Make sure their teeth are clean. Mine enjoy a raw marrow bone once or twice weekly - shiny clean pearly whites

And whataboutery the evidence thst children growing up with dogs have strong immunity. Those of us sharing our lives with dogs better mental health

And - my dogs don’t smell

I agree, Rekarie - many humans are filthy, disgusting creatures.
Oh, and Musicgirl, bathing a dog too often isn't good for it. It strips the natural oils from their coat, for one thing.
As for whether our house smells of dog or not, I could not care less. It's his house as much as it is ours and any visitors who don't like that would not be welcome in any case.

No. You're wrong about the smell. You can be as confident as you like. To quote an advert about a product is ridiculous. I can confidently tell you that nose blindmess doesnt exist. I have a friend who doesn't have dogs. More of a cat person. She often will comment that our house/car don't smell of dog unlike other folk we know with dogs.

She's very blunt to the point of rudeness so I believe her.

You worry about where dogs put their noses and mouths. Humans also engage in dubious activities.

I can assure you the you will have encountered human faeces on many a door handle in your life.

Humans are a bit mucky

As I said before, @RosiesMaw2, I am a dog lover and have one of my own. It doesn't mean that I want to be jumped up at or sniffed by a strange dog, as happened to me recently. I don't like the idea of dogs eating from human plates, either, and some owners do this. Some owners even share an ice cream with their dogs - yuk. When you consider where dogs put their noses and mouths at other times, l cannot think of many more unhygienic things. When we have a roast dinner we will put a little bit of meat in the dog's bowl.
I don't agree with putting family dogs in outhouses, but several people here are convinced that their own dogs do not smell. I can confidently assure you that they do - all dogs do. and the larger the dog the greater the smell. Other people are too polite to remark on the fact. In the words of the advert, you have gone nose blind. My dog has a bath around once a month and I wash his bedding regularly. Even so, I am aware that he has his very own eau de dog aroma and, although people reassure me that they have not noticed a doggy odour, I am careful to make sure it stays that way. I have been in many homes with dogs and, all too often l know that there is a dog living there before I see it as the smell reaches me first.