Dogs in coffee shops

I don’t like dogs in food shops or cafés except for guide dogs which behave well and are needed. Visions of them peeing or crapping on the floor aren’t pleasant. Also, some people are very allergic to them and would therefore not be able to enter ( one of my SILs is)

BigMamma

Joseann

I'm not talking about going abroad BigMamma. I meant British families staying in the UK renting cottages, chalets, mobile homes, etc. in places like Wales, Devon, Cornwall etc. Some of them may not be able to afford kennels on top of the cost of their holiday. Or they may not have relatives to look after the dog.
As said above, many walking and discovery holidays are centered around dog walks.
In my opinion, there should be dog friendly eating places and no dog places. Suits everyone then.

I am talking about dogs being dragged from pillar to post because their owners think that they like going on long walkies every day. Are these poor dogs paws checked for cuts etc. When humans are carrying their water are they ensuring their pets have enough to drink. If I had no one to leave our pets with and could not afford kennels then I would not go on holiday whether abroad or inland.

Humans think they are doing their poor dogs a favour by taking them everywhere with them but I do not think so, if you get tired walking about then think about the dogs with their poor little feet, no shoes etc.

Cruel.

One thought
Over- reaction.

Second thought
Sweeping generalisations.

why does that equate with taking dogs, cats, snakes and seagulls out for a meal (see what I did there Callistemom )

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I hope you have a collar and lead for him or he could cause chaos.

Dickens

As with children, the problem with dogs in various 'eateries' is the owner.

I've seen both children and dogs who are well-behaved and don't cause any trouble.

Perhaps dog-friendly (and child-friendly) restaurants should have some simple rules - for example, not letting your children run around unchecked, nor allowing dogs to sit on seats or be fed from the table?

A child eating with its parents, or a dog parked under a bench or seat snoozing, doesn't really cause anyone any harm.

The worst for me is those owners with dogs on extendable leads in restaurants who, when the dog greets all-comers by bounding up to them, smile indulgently and assure you that their animal "just loves people". Dogs should be kept on a short lead and remain close to their owner. And children likewise. Without a lead of course.

A child eating with its parents, or a dog parked under a bench or seat snoozing, doesn't really cause anyone any harm.

It's when a wandering child goes under a neighbouring table or bench and starts to torment play with a strange dog that trouble might ensue. Then the parents might blame the dog and dog owner if the dog growls or reacts in any way.

Well, I have a glass 'rainbow bridge' with some of my dog's ashes fused into it, so I make no apologies for that. If I believed in a heaven, that's what I'd want it to be like.

Oh how I hate that saying " over the rainbow bridge"🤮

Golly Spuddy - " demonic sprogs"? Not too judgemental ?

Your partly wrong Caleo there are no other cafes /coffee shops to go to so of course they seem popular
We have one bar /eatery here that at least keeps one corner area for doggie people Which is better than nothing
What a daft thing to say ‘do men always wash their hands after a pee’ who knows and who cares they aren’t slobbering around me or my food why does that equate with taking dogs, cats, snakes and seagulls out for a meal (see what I did there Callistemom )
it’s not the dogs fault that owners allow them to drink coffee or tea off their saucers or put their plate of leftovers on the floor for them to eat or allow them to sit on the chairs at the table ALL things I ve seen and don’t like . I often don’t like the smell of dogs some smell, others don’t every dog owner thinks their pooch is perfect but not everyone thinks the same
When I had a dog she was perfect (for me ) but I never took her in restaurants, cafes, shops, or any building of attractions etc
She had two good walks a day a garden when I was home and slept in the house when I went out She never had a pushchair or was carried in my arms and when she died she didnt go over any rainbow bridges 🙄

Joseann

I'm not talking about going abroad BigMamma. I meant British families staying in the UK renting cottages, chalets, mobile homes, etc. in places like Wales, Devon, Cornwall etc. Some of them may not be able to afford kennels on top of the cost of their holiday. Or they may not have relatives to look after the dog.
As said above, many walking and discovery holidays are centered around dog walks.
In my opinion, there should be dog friendly eating places and no dog places. Suits everyone then.

I am talking about dogs being dragged from pillar to post because their owners think that they like going on long walkies every day. Are these poor dogs paws checked for cuts etc. When humans are carrying their water are they ensuring their pets have enough to drink. If I had no one to leave our pets with and could not afford kennels then I would not go on holiday whether abroad or inland.

Humans think they are doing their poor dogs a favour by taking them everywhere with them but I do not think so, if you get tired walking about then think about the dogs with their poor little feet, no shoes etc.

Cruel.

I think it is disrespectful to treat dogs like people. They are much nicer than humans, mostly, and have a lot to put up with from owners who drag them round to places for people.

We have two dogs and would never take them to a restaurant whether we sat inside or out. It's just not hygienic in my opinion. Of course they do have their own restaurant at home! 🤣

Oh, I don't know, Dickens - I think a lead (and possibly even a muzzle) could come in very handy for some children!
On a serious note though, I agree with you. If children and dogs were kept under control in cafes or restaurants, there wouldn't really be a problem, would there?

As with children, the problem with dogs in various 'eateries' is the owner.

I've seen both children and dogs who are well-behaved and don't cause any trouble.

Perhaps dog-friendly (and child-friendly) restaurants should have some simple rules - for example, not letting your children run around unchecked, nor allowing dogs to sit on seats or be fed from the table?

A child eating with its parents, or a dog parked under a bench or seat snoozing, doesn't really cause anyone any harm.

The worst for me is those owners with dogs on extendable leads in restaurants who, when the dog greets all-comers by bounding up to them, smile indulgently and assure you that their animal "just loves people". Dogs should be kept on a short lead and remain close to their owner. And children likewise. Without a lead of course.

Oh, it must be the same place as flappergirl!

Personally I'm thoroughly sick of young children running riot in eateries. They are a danger to waiting staff, plaster their grubby fingers everywhere and screech to high heaven like monkeys in the rain forest, all totally unchecked by their parents.

Spuddy

Most dogs in such places are well behaved and quiet.

I'd much rather have them in there than a load of screaming obnoxious arrogant tantruming uncontrollable brats running around knocking into people, putting their grubby hands and feet on tables and chairs etc. while ''parents'' totally ignore them, not having them in control and worshipping their mobiles instead of keeping their demonic sprogs in line.

See a lot of those, do you? Where on earth do you live?

If no- dogs cafes and pubs were more popular there would be more of them.

Do men always wash hands after having a pee? I doubt it.

It's true though that cafe staff even in dog cafes should not touch the animals or their leads without washing their hands after.

valdali I don't know where/when children weren't allowed in restaurants. I was lucky and went to quite a lot with my parents as a girl.

My own children have been to restaurants (even as babies) but I'd obviously take them out if they started to grizzle. As children they were very well behaved at the dinner table. I would be mortified if they had disrupted another person's dinner.

I'm not talking about going abroad BigMamma. I meant British families staying in the UK renting cottages, chalets, mobile homes, etc. in places like Wales, Devon, Cornwall etc. Some of them may not be able to afford kennels on top of the cost of their holiday. Or they may not have relatives to look after the dog.
As said above, many walking and discovery holidays are centered around dog walks.
In my opinion, there should be dog friendly eating places and no dog places. Suits everyone then.

When we were children, children weren't allowed in hardly any restaurants either. Don't want to go back to that. If we're on holiday we'll take our dog in restaurants & cafes although we sit outside if that's an option.Even dog-friendly holiday lets don't allow the dog to be left alone in the accommodation. Trouble is some people spoil it for everyone, not content with their dog allowed to lie quietly in the corner. Most dogs don't bark, certainly not wee, or get on the seats or be fed from the table when their owners are dining out. Waitresses shouldn't really be stroking them either, but with sensible groundrules I think dog-friendly is great.

Joseann

You're not allowed to leave the dogs home alone in holiday properties, so I think that is why we see so many being dragged around with families in July and August. At least they won't overheat or get burnt paws this summer, though they will all be shaking wet coats over everyone! 😆

If that is the case then they should leave them at home with someone to look after them and if not, put them in kennels, our sons looked after our pets when we went abroad but when they couldn't we put them in kennels that we trusted and they loved it.

Dog friendly places would seem to be a lot more common in holiday/rural areas. I still shiver to recall walking around Exeter with a friend and their two dogs, shortly after Christmas in freezing drizzle - looking in vain for anywhere - pub or cafe -where we could take the dogs - because her dh refused to leave them in the car.

He, meanwhile, was warmly tucked up in a coffee shop! but then he always was a supremely selfish type.

Most dogs in such places are well behaved and quiet.

I'd much rather have them in there than a load of screaming obnoxious arrogant tantruming uncontrollable brats running around knocking into people, putting their grubby hands and feet on tables and chairs etc. while ''parents'' totally ignore them, not having them in control and worshipping their mobiles instead of keeping their demonic sprogs in line.

Out local polling station was held in the Village hall. Large notice prominently displayed, 'No dogs allowed on the premised.' Despite that a voter insisted in taking her small dog in, I can't leave him, and the officials allowed it. Why have rules if they are broken?
Other voters tied their dogs outside; none were any trouble.

I don’t like dogs on chairs in cafes, or at all in restaurants.
We do take our dog to one when we walk in one direction along the estuary and the eatery is mostly outside, to another cafe/restaurant where there is a covered area outside for dog+owners and a third along the coast which allows dogs inside or out.
When we talked to the owner she said that 7-8 years ago, prior to allowing dogs inside, they hardly made enough money to survive unless the weather was fine and sunny.
Dog owners are hardier and walk the dogs even in the winter so it’s worth their while to stay open. She said more people seemed to have dogs since Covid and they got in the habit of walking.

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Thank goodness. I had visions of you being dragged down the road in your PJs!