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Dogs in coffee shops

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Sakura4 Fri 12-Jul-24 16:24:20

AIBU objecting to dogs being allowed inside coffee shops/pubs etc, in fact anywhere serving food? I just don’t feel this is hygienic especially when dogs occupy bench seats and are fed treats from the tables. Visiting a new bakery and coffee shop for the first time I was nearly knocked over by a small terrier who ‘just loves to say hello to everyone’. It belongs to the owner who lets it wander about at will. I won’t be going back there but it is increasingly difficult to find dog-free places as the ‘dogs welcome’ sign proliferates. Before dog owners retaliate, I DO NOT hate dogs! We have a delightful cocker spaniel in the family which charms everyone but we always seek outside covered areas when eating out ourselves or she stays at home. Is it just me?

Joseann Sat 13-Jul-24 08:24:55

Are you still wearing them while this is happening?
Yes when he was a puppy, but not any more fortunately!

Tuaim Sat 13-Jul-24 08:18:33

My grandmother had a mongrel dog in the East End of London and he was fed on scraps from the butchers. Those were the days.

Callistemon213 Sat 13-Jul-24 08:02:44

Joseann

The worst person for calling dogs and cats furbabies is Supervet, Noel Fitzpatrick. I know he is in a highly charged situation with distressed owners, but he goes OTT and lets all the dogs lick his face. Yuck!
(My dogs are NOT my babies, although one is currently having a little teenage tantrum, dragging my pyjamas around, because I'm a bit late going out for our walk on a Saturday).

(My dogs are NOT my babies, although one is currently having a little teenage tantrum, dragging my pyjamas around, because I'm a bit late going out for our walk on a Saturday)

Are you still wearing them while this is happening?

Callistemon213 Sat 13-Jul-24 08:00:18

BlueBelle

I don’t remember ever seeing dogs in restaurants or anywhere other than in the home or wandering around when I was a kid or a younger person
Mind you there was nothing like the amount of animals as there are now every second person has a pampered pooch that is elevate to the standard of a child
I love animals but they are NOT human and shouldn’t be infantilised They should not be taken everywhere which is for their comfort as much as everyone else’s

I was wondering what would happen if you took Cedric to a café with you Bluebelle

Would he behave nicely or would he go from table to table hoovering up everyone's food?

I should take this more seriously but there have been other threads like this and no consensus ever reached.

Joseann Sat 13-Jul-24 07:27:27

You're not allowed to leave the dogs home alone in holiday properties, so I think that is why we see so many being dragged around with families in July and August. At least they won't overheat or get burnt paws this summer, though they will all be shaking wet coats over everyone! 😆

BigMamma Sat 13-Jul-24 07:24:54

BlueBelle

A cat cafe must be the most disgusting place to go (and I like cats) but hairs and dander are all over the place and cats should never be kept in the house either that I believe is totally cruel unless the animal has some disability that makes it dangerous to be outside

Don't forget the dog hairs when you brush past a dog in your dark trousers and end up being covered in dog hair. I have perennial rhinitis, that is 52 weeks of the year hay fever and have to take medication daily.

BigMamma Sat 13-Jul-24 07:21:12

Has anyone ever thought that dogs may just like to be left at home in peace instead of being dragged through busy holiday spots and then having to sit quietly in a bustling restaurant.

I have seen poor dogs being dragged through the streets on a very hot day, their poor paws must be so sore from the hot pavements. Animals cannot tell you if they are thirsty, hungry or even not feeling well so please stop dragging them from pillar to post just because you like walking all day long with a bottle of water in your hand your dog cannot have a drink when he wants, only when you say he can.

I look at these people an think animal cruelty.

Joseann Sat 13-Jul-24 07:11:07

The worst person for calling dogs and cats furbabies is Supervet, Noel Fitzpatrick. I know he is in a highly charged situation with distressed owners, but he goes OTT and lets all the dogs lick his face. Yuck!
(My dogs are NOT my babies, although one is currently having a little teenage tantrum, dragging my pyjamas around, because I'm a bit late going out for our walk on a Saturday).

Minho Sat 13-Jul-24 07:08:43

I think the problem is with the owners, not the dogs. We sometimes took our lovely dog into pubs on a day out and everyone made a fuss of him.

BlueBelle Sat 13-Jul-24 07:03:22

A cat cafe must be the most disgusting place to go (and I like cats) but hairs and dander are all over the place and cats should never be kept in the house either that I believe is totally cruel unless the animal has some disability that makes it dangerous to be outside

BlueBelle Sat 13-Jul-24 07:01:09

I don’t remember ever seeing dogs in restaurants or anywhere other than in the home or wandering around when I was a kid or a younger person
Mind you there was nothing like the amount of animals as there are now every second person has a pampered pooch that is elevate to the standard of a child
I love animals but they are NOT human and shouldn’t be infantilised They should not be taken everywhere which is for their comfort as much as everyone else’s

Casdon Sat 13-Jul-24 06:58:19

You could legally bring any animal that’s not restricted (wild animals) I think, I’ve been in a cat cafe so I know they are definitely allowed. It’s one of those areas of life where there isn’t a right answer - I definitely agree with the law banning them from kitchens though.

biglouis Sat 13-Jul-24 06:53:48

Unless they are service animals I dont think dogs belong in cafes and restaurants, any more than other animals. Can I bring in my cat, snake or rat? Whats so special about dogs?

Casdon Sat 13-Jul-24 06:47:25

To the contrary Curtaintwitcher, UK law always allowed dogs in commercial kitchens as well as in eating ares. I can remember the big fuss made when an EU law came in banning them from the kitchens, because it was sensationalised in the press.

Curtaintwitcher Sat 13-Jul-24 06:40:59

Why have the rules on hygiene been relaxed, is this all part of the Liberal attitude to life in general? There used to be a law banning dogs from any premises where food was sold. There is a very good reason for it and it should still be the case.

Calendargirl Sat 13-Jul-24 06:34:44

Any animal being referred to as babies, daughters etc winds me up.

They are cats and dogs, for goodness sake. Not members of the human race,

And you never used to see them in pushchairs or prams. But then seeing as they are ‘fur babies’…..

MissAdventure Fri 12-Jul-24 22:44:52

I'm not keen on animals being around where food is served, really (or children either, but these things are sent to try us)

No doubt it's different in one's own home, with the "furbabies" doing what they do in your kitchen.

I won't list them, but...

flappergirl Fri 12-Jul-24 22:23:24

Sar53

I was on a bus the other day and a lady got on with a very large dog. The dog sat on the seat next to her the whole time she was on the bus. No one, including me, said a thing but I was very uncomfortable with it.
I was thinking of the next person to sit on that seat.
What would you have done .

Judging by some of the passengers I see on buses I imagine the dog was probably better groomed and more hygienic. He would be unlikely to stick chewing gum under the seat or sneeze all over the person in front for example.

Personally I'm thoroughly sick of young children running riot in eateries. They are a danger to waiting staff, plaster their grubby fingers everywhere and screech to high heaven like monkeys in the rain forest, all totally unchecked by their parents.

Worst of all you are supposed to find all of this utterly endearing, especially as a woman, or risk being burned at the stake. Give me dogs any day.

Urmstongran Fri 12-Jul-24 21:39:51

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Iam64 Fri 12-Jul-24 21:32:09

My dogs used to go to the pub of into dig friendly cafes. Not any more / I’m fed up with inexperienced dog owners who think they know best yet set no boundaries plus they think dogs need to meet and greet any dog they meet. No they need to ignore other dogs, lie down and stay still ,

Iam64 Fri 12-Jul-24 21:29:08

Dogs in prams may be puppies being socialised, exposed to traffic and crowds before they’re fully inoculated and able to walk on the ground. Mr I carried out huge puppy in a puppy carrier
Or they’re old dogs with mobility problems who benefit from a change of scene

sodapop Fri 12-Jul-24 20:57:29

MissInterpreted

So for all those who appear to be horrified at the thought of eating anywhere where there was a dog present, what if you were in a cafe or restaurant and a service dog came in? Would you up and leave?

I think the difference is that service dogs are invariably well trained MissInterpreted and stay quietly by their owners. A lot of dog owners feel their dogs can wander around cafes pubs etc at will.
I have two dogs and they are quite comfortable at home when I go out to eat or have a drink.

Jaxjacky Fri 12-Jul-24 20:29:33

Our local pub welcomes dogs, most are well behaved, as are their owners! The worst are on extendable leads, owner ignoring them, yapping dogs, owner feeds treats periodically reinforcing yapping and one dachshund, who’s owner keeps lifting it up, shoving it in people’s faces, including children, entreating they kiss it. We sit well away.
This is a wet pub, no food.
Eating out, we try and avoid places that permit dogs, service dogs are unobtrusive and well trained, as all dogs should be.

MissInterpreted Fri 12-Jul-24 20:13:19

So for all those who appear to be horrified at the thought of eating anywhere where there was a dog present, what if you were in a cafe or restaurant and a service dog came in? Would you up and leave?

DamaskRose Fri 12-Jul-24 20:10:21

I can’t really believe we’re having this conversation. We had dogs till we were no longer able to walk them. I loved them each and every one. They did not come to the table at home never mind in a restaurant or cafe where there would be other humans. From a hygiene point of view we found it unacceptable to have dogs near food in our home. Why should I pay a lot of money for a special meal only to have it spoilt by an animal? Why should I have to go somewhere else?