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Dogs in coffee shops

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Sakura4 Fri 12-Jul-24 16:24:20

AIBU objecting to dogs being allowed inside coffee shops/pubs etc, in fact anywhere serving food? I just don’t feel this is hygienic especially when dogs occupy bench seats and are fed treats from the tables. Visiting a new bakery and coffee shop for the first time I was nearly knocked over by a small terrier who ‘just loves to say hello to everyone’. It belongs to the owner who lets it wander about at will. I won’t be going back there but it is increasingly difficult to find dog-free places as the ‘dogs welcome’ sign proliferates. Before dog owners retaliate, I DO NOT hate dogs! We have a delightful cocker spaniel in the family which charms everyone but we always seek outside covered areas when eating out ourselves or she stays at home. Is it just me?

oodles Wed 13-Nov-24 21:51:02

I do love to see well-behaved doggies when I visit a cafe, I always ask if I can say hello to them, and I honestly have never seen a badly behaved one in a cafe, I think most people don't want to bring dog that will spoil their meal or coffee. I found myself while on holidady having a bite to eat with an old lady at a cafe where there was a dog next to us, she told me how she missed her own little dog and how happy she was to see the little dog
I tend to go by the star ratings for hygiene, and have been in some establishments with dogs with a 5-star rating than others that don't allow dogs, but only have 4 stars. It's not as if the dogs are in the kitchen.

Cleme Mon 11-Nov-24 09:53:24

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Babs03 Wed 28-Aug-24 21:41:34

GrannyIvy

Babs03 - I appreciate what you say there are many considerate dog owners out there and the ones who are not spoil it for others. I just seem to have been unlucky of late hence my comment. Apologies if I have upset anyone.

Don’t apologise I was agreeing with you.
There are too many inconsiderate dog owners who don’t train or leash their dogs and so cause problems for everyone else.

Quokka Wed 28-Aug-24 21:37:10

No objection to a well behaved dog in coffee shops, pubs and cafes.

In my experience the dogs are often better behaved than some children. Not sure they should be ‘proper restaurants’ though.

Vintagejazz Wed 28-Aug-24 21:21:24

I live in Ireland. Most public parks have signs saying dogs must be kept on a lead. Most dog owners ignore this and are then annoyed and offended when pulled up on it. So many self centred and self entitled dog owners around.

pandapatch Wed 28-Aug-24 15:08:54

We were at a church fete recently, with tables set out in the grounds for teas and cakes - there was a small spaniel sat ON a table. I I quite like dogs but these are the owners that spoil it for others.

GrannyIvy Wed 28-Aug-24 15:04:52

We live in crazy times😂

Gingster Wed 28-Aug-24 14:30:11

My dgd1 recently took her little sister to a Cat Cafe , as she loves cats.

I can’t believe this is allowed with Health and Hygiene. Cats on tables, wandering around the cafe. How disgusting. 🐈🐈‍⬛

The girls loved it though . 😬

GrannyIvy Wed 28-Aug-24 14:20:27

Babs03 - I appreciate what you say there are many considerate dog owners out there and the ones who are not spoil it for others. I just seem to have been unlucky of late hence my comment. Apologies if I have upset anyone.

Babs03 Wed 28-Aug-24 12:39:58

GrannyIvy

We went to one of our favourite beaches in Norfolk recently and it was absolutely doggy world.I was amazed at how many running around freely. My small grandchildren were unable to play happily without being approached by dogs and one cocking his leg over her sandcastle. Not everyone likes dogs. I was bitten badly as a child and do not want to be up close to strangers dogs. Sorry if this offends but please can we have doggy free areas. When I am out to lunch I do not want someone’s dog drooling near me and the doting owner saying he/she just wants to be friendly, I don’t.

We have a park opposite us where dogs are hardly ever leashed and the owners usually just dots in the distance chatting away without any idea what their dogs are up to.
There is also a small lake where swans are kept, signs around the lake say dogs must be leashed but with owners oblivious every year cygnets are injured or killed by dogs.
We have had dogs all our lives, only decided after our last dog died that we wouldn’t do this anymore, but each dog was trained and leashed in public areas. And we would never take the dogs in a restaurant or cafe because as I said before dogs do not like being restrained under a table for an hour or so whilst their owners enjoy what they are doing. Not so much dog friendly but owner friendly, the dog gets nothing from it.

GrannyIvy Wed 28-Aug-24 12:23:26

We went to one of our favourite beaches in Norfolk recently and it was absolutely doggy world.I was amazed at how many running around freely. My small grandchildren were unable to play happily without being approached by dogs and one cocking his leg over her sandcastle. Not everyone likes dogs. I was bitten badly as a child and do not want to be up close to strangers dogs. Sorry if this offends but please can we have doggy free areas. When I am out to lunch I do not want someone’s dog drooling near me and the doting owner saying he/she just wants to be friendly, I don’t.

Freya5 Fri 23-Aug-24 21:28:26

flappergirl

Just avoid cafes and pubs with dogs in surely. I do where children are concerned. If I see a place heaving with unruly, snotty nosed little darlings using it as a playground, I know it's definitely not for me.

Yes I agree, but the other way around. Seeing a cosseted pooch sat on someone's knee, drooling all over the table, I got up to go, saying how disgusting it was, lick your bum, lick the table Luckily the waitress saw it, and asked the women and her pooch to leave. Then completely disinfected the table. This was in Germany.

Iam64 Fri 23-Aug-24 21:21:27

biker gran - my daft lab accidentally caught my wrist as I attempted to pull him back from retaliating at a German shepherd dog that lunged at him aggressively.
It was a minor tooth mark on my wrist. This was Saturday. I went to the pharmacy and bought the covers and cleaning stuff the pharmacist recommended. He said if by monday there was any sign of infection, see my GP
I expected antibiotic cream but my GP prescribed antibiotic tablets specifically for animal bites. He insisted I return in a week or earlier if the small infected area worsened
I had an existing appointment that Friday but the GP I saw insisted I take the dressing off and shoe her the injury. She was pleased but said I’d need anti biotic cream for a week and to return if any sign it wasn’t continuing to respond.
This was one tooth mark, not a deep cut - thankfully it mended and is my only superficial injury in 75 years of living with dogs

Oreo Fri 23-Aug-24 20:25:44

Babs03

We have always had dogs but don’t take them to cafes or restaurants, these places may be called dog friendly but dogs imho prefer to be walking or running and generally having a good doggy time. Instead of sitting under a table, leash tied to the leg, panting and getting bored whilst the owner enjoys what we humans like to do.
Is not necessary to take our dogs everywhere, and quite honestly not always fair.

This.

RosiesMaw2 Fri 23-Aug-24 17:24:30

A feral cat is precisely that - wild, not a pet moggy which has had its jabs at the vet and is going to sit on your lap and purr.
And should be treated as such.

bikergran Fri 23-Aug-24 15:31:47

Not a dog bite but could happen with a dog, my dd feeds stray cats until they can be picked up n neutered etc. this stray Ferrell cat bit her, the infection started tracking up her arm, had 3 lots antibiotics all her hand knuckle swollen.
End result was, general anaesthetic, wound cut open washed out, overnight stay in hospital n stitches, this was over 7 weeks ago it . So do please keep eye on any bites !

Grantanow Fri 23-Aug-24 14:14:56

Guide and assistance dogs are obviously no more hygienic than other dogs but society accepts their benefit to their owners outweighs hygiene considerations.

RosiesMaw2 Sun 11-Aug-24 10:24:39

Calendargirl

I assume it’s not considered guide and assistance dogs are any more hygienic, but they are trained, on leads, and just look more placid and quiet.

Plus how else would their owners be able to go to cafes etc, which of course is unacceptable.

Then why not say so instead of hiding behind the "unhygienic" argument? confusedconfused

Calendargirl Sun 11-Aug-24 06:50:25

I assume it’s not considered guide and assistance dogs are any more hygienic, but they are trained, on leads, and just look more placid and quiet.

Plus how else would their owners be able to go to cafes etc, which of course is unacceptable.

RosiesMaw2 Sat 10-Aug-24 21:27:26

I do think it is unhygeinic for dogs to be allowed where there is food, except for guide dogs
Out of interest, why are guide or other assistance dogs deemed to be more hygienic ? confusedconfused

WelshPoppy Sat 10-Aug-24 20:44:19

We take our dog into dog friendly cafes, coffee shops, pubs, etc. She sits quietly in the corner or by the side of our table out of the way. Give me dogs over children whinging, crying or running around any day. And yes I have children and a grandchild but they were expected to behave appropriately when in public and did.

JudyBloom Sat 10-Aug-24 15:35:30

I like dogs but I feel uneasy in public places where they are allowed, I nearly tripped up over one little dog allowed to be on a very long lead in a garden centre and it has put me off going again as I can't relax. I do think it is unhygeinic for dogs to be allowed where there is food, except for guide dogs.

AreWeThereYet Sat 10-Aug-24 15:23:43

My lab is an assistance dog puppy in training and people either want to fuss him or are very wary of him because of his large size. He has to go in cafes to learn to be anywhere in any circumstances and still only focus on his adult partner or just quietly relax.

Ali23 We regularly have police dogs being trained around a local shopping mall. The Customs people were training 'sniffer' dogs recently and I couldn't get over the number of people who by-passed the police and customs people and went straight to cuddle the dog. One man sent his young son over with a handfull of crisps to feed the dog while he was recording it on his camera.

We were watching through a coffee shop window and the senior policeman was facing us and you could tell by the look on his face he wanted to knock the phone out of the man's hand and stamp on it. Instead they all just smiled and led the dog away to a quieter place.

flappergirl Sat 10-Aug-24 12:12:44

Just avoid cafes and pubs with dogs in surely. I do where children are concerned. If I see a place heaving with unruly, snotty nosed little darlings using it as a playground, I know it's definitely not for me.

Ali23 Sat 10-Aug-24 11:33:24

Iam64

I don’t allow my dogs to meet n greet other on lead dogs. I take the same approach with people. Most dogs love and demand attention and it really isn’t helping their behaviour if every stranger wants tell the dog how adorable it is. My enormous lab suffers from - aren’t o gorgeous cuddle me -syndrome. He needs no encouragement to expect everyone to adore him 🐕

I so agree with this!
My lab is an assistance dog puppy in training and people either want to fuss him or are very wary of him because of his large size. He has to go in cafes to learn to be anywhere in any circumstances and still only focus on his adult partner or just quietly relax.
He wears a bandana but most people see him and react first then if I’m lucky they see that he is working!
We started outside cafes but now we are inside two local cafes with very understanding staff.
It’s hardest inside and outside the cafe when other people’s dogs are off lead and allowed to approach him. I can’t begin to tell you how hard he’s working at the age of 10 months to look at me instead of sniff them!
That said, the regulars in our parks and cafes are so supportive.