A just stop oil protester is going to miss her brothers wedding now that she has been locked up.

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Rowantree

Wow, some rather bigoted viewpoints here. I remember them well from my own yoof.
Been reading the Daily Hate?

Ah well.

Rowantree
Wow, some rather bigoted viewpoints here.
That’s the impression I get reading your posts.

Rowantree

Wow, some rather bigoted viewpoints here. I remember them well from my own yoof.
Been reading the Daily Hate?

Ah well.

There is always one

mokryna

These people are fighting for the human race. The sentences were/are too harsh and they will be marked out of certain jobs for the rest of their lives.
It makes me think of the suffragettes.

If she has to be punished, as the prisons are overcrowded, shouldn’t she be tagged to stay at home?

They got what they deserved. There are many ways to protest and they chose to inflict as much damage as possible on thousands for people they don't even know. It got them nothing.

They are nothing like suffragettes and the comparison is insulting.

No doubt this new government will let them out early anyway.

Good. Let's hope she's learnt a lesson.

Well if she had brought her daughter up to not be selfish and think of others she wouldn’t be behind bars and she hadn’t stopped ambulances etc ppl might have felt sorry about it. She can show her the photos lol

Cressida will miss her brother's wedding, Louise Lancaster will miss her daughter's wedding. That their families think this should engender sympathy is so entitled and dismissive of the enormous grief their actions caused to others.

TwiceAsNice

I do think we should be doing more to save the planet and I worry about the future for my grandchildren. However I have no sympathy for these stupid obsessive protesters and am glad they have gone to prison. If they wanted to go to their daughter’s weddings they should have not taken part. I wonder what their children think not having their mothers at their wedding, a once in a lifetime occasion spoilt forever surely?

It is her brothers wedding she could, and bloody well SHOULD, be missing out on!
Why the heck should she be allowed to attend? Let her miss it, and give him the chance of a good day without worrying about what she'll protest about!

When I was but a baby protester in secondary school, it was well understood that direct action would have serious consequences.
Many courageous people did it anyway. I don't remember there ever being this kind of whining about consequences until very recently.
The consequences are the point. The point is to draw attention to the cause and the unfairness of whatever you are protesting against.
A gentle word and a let off achieves nothing. Hallam knows this full well, but apparently his followers don't.
The entire point of direct action protest is to attract the negative attention of the state.

Rowantree

Wow, some rather bigoted viewpoints here. I remember them well from my own yoof.
Been reading the Daily Hate?

Ah well.

The Guardian and Morning Star, tbh.
Ciao.

I do think we should be doing more to save the planet and I worry about the future for my grandchildren. However I have no sympathy for these stupid obsessive protesters and am glad they have gone to prison. If they wanted to go to their daughter’s weddings they should have not taken part. I wonder what their children think not having their mothers at their wedding, a once in a lifetime occasion spoilt forever surely?

Well these numpties have just been arrested whilst trying to stop people going through departures at Gatwick Airport.

I and my family do all we can to limit our carbon footprint, but I would be extremely cross if I had to climb over these (as many people, young, old and parents with buggies) to get out of the U.K.

Oh, my achey breaky heart.
That's proper justice.

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Doing things which cause people to focus on your damaging actions rather than the cause you’re supporting . . .
Doing it when you are known to do and use things that contribute to the danger you’re protesting about . . .
Complaining that other’s actions are having the same impact on you as yours did on others . . .

Thank goodness I had parents who took me to parks to play and didn’t take me on marches about anything.

I'm sure they've had worse slurs than being called anarchists. Been there, heard that before and avoid that newspaper.

Grannysquare my parents were among the first sit-down demonstrators arrested by the police. Hands thrown up in horror at the audacity and dreadful behaviour. Ditto year after year at countless marches and demonstrations. It's all relative. My daughter was arrested at Faslane for blocking the road to the base. They knew they'd be arrested. My daughter was, frankly, terrified, but her terror of nuclear weapons was worse. We had a phone call from the police informing us of her outrageous behaviour, expecting us to be shocked and appalled. Quite the opposite.
So don't play down the attitudes then. It's all relative.

There really is a Cressida!
You couldn’t make it up!

No sympathy whatsoever from me.
Oil and gas are going to be needed for years to come.
These protesters will come to realise that in time.

I like Chris Packham and David Attenborough and would listen to them but not to anarchists who have ulterior motives.

Hallam is an anarchist. He has now jumped on the Just Stop Oil bandwagon but he has a history of disruption yet keeps all those gas-guzzling vehicles on his farm.
How does he find time to farm productively? Where does his funding come from?

Mollygo Why, then, I'm not reasonable, then. Who's to judge?

I'm sure some GNs do their best for the environment, as many of us do, within the constraints of our car-and-flight crazed society. But it doesn't go nearly far enough. Governments have to take note and be shocked into it if they turn the other way. Desperate remedies, but arguably necessary ones. Writing to your MP or a polite letter to the Times ain't cutting it. It remains to be seen whether the voices of Chris Packham and David Attenborough will clear through deaf eardrums in time to make a difference. Watch this space.

Rowantree

Oh ffs.
One admittedly daft comment made by a frustrated mother does not negate the whole Just Stop Oil movement.

No, but being unaware of how what you do and say will affect your cause seems to be a habit with that family.

Reasonable people don’t need to swear . . . but maybe you do.

And you’re still doing all the things I mentioned in my post.
Others do know about trying to be more ecologically aware. You only have to read the efforts GNs have posted with regard to saving fuel and water and recycling. Just they don’t need to vs about it.

@Rowantree I see your point, but recollection is that Greenham Common had peaceful protests with minimal disruption to the lives of everyday people. Likewise, I believe, for Aldermaston.

The JSO Hallam et al were convicted of conspiracy for events that would if successful would have brought chaos & indeed this was the intention. Hallam has stated on social media that he finds it acceptable that ordinary people may loose their lives. He & other JSO activists have contempt for others. There have been a string of JSO protests that have caused criminal damage & impeded citizens from going about their lawful business.

There is no comparison between the behaviour of marchers to Aldermaston & camps at Greenham Common.