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Grandmaofone Fri 02-Aug-24 11:21:58

there is currently a thread on MN entitled :
‘Genuine question re pensioner fuel payment cut’

I was so shocked by many of the replies I had to come here to ask AIBU to think this is divisive, patronising, dangerous even, when the well off will not only consider the lives of the poorer pensioners,
but want to remove the few benefits of old age including the bus pass ?
It was like reading the loathing-for-pensioners comments on the DM, disturbing, disrespectful, a little frightening actually that we are so dismissed.

David49 Sat 10-Aug-24 11:49:22

I’m a natural conservative, my vote was tactical and with a lot of others doing the same overturned a Tory majority of 22k.

So far Starmer is doing what I approve of

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 11:57:48

It was overturned partly because of the disgraceful way Boris was stabbed in the back imo. With him still at the helm they would have won the election.

David49 Sat 10-Aug-24 12:34:47

Not with reform in the running they took a large slice of the extreme right vote

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 12:54:53

Yes I guess it was a protest vote.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Aug-24 12:57:19

BevSec

It was overturned partly because of the disgraceful way Boris was stabbed in the back imo. With him still at the helm they would have won the election.

He broke the law! He was found to be a liar? Do you approve of that sort of behaviour in a PM?

Wyllow3 Sat 10-Aug-24 13:14:26

BJ could have stood down with dignity when it was clear he no longer had his own Party's support.

Instead, it became a debacle with BJ accusing fellow MP's of conducting a "witch hunt" (a la Trump) which just weakened his own party.

David49 Sat 10-Aug-24 13:20:15

I parted company with the Johnson’s idealogical during the Brexit campaign, they were promising changes which could not possibly be delivered- and so it was.

From there it got worse, Sunak was the best of a very bad lot but it was far too late, they had to go.

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 13:21:31

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

Wyllow3 Sat 10-Aug-24 13:34:59

The accusation against Starmer was as we all very well know investigated most throughly by the Durham Police operating under exactly the same guidelines as those with BJ and his teams, and claims rejected.

Starmer and Raynor both promised that if they had been found to be breaking guidelines they would resign.

BJ never offered this option.

David49 Sat 10-Aug-24 13:44:24

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

Bev Johnson and integrity don’t belong in the same sentence, bar Truss he is the worst PM the UK has ever had, a lazy charismatic buffoon, excellent qualifications, no. Many Tories still bemoan his leaving politics, which shows just how much out of touch with reality they are, most voted Reform.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Aug-24 13:50:10

He threw out most of the decent Conservative MP’s and those he didn’t throw out refused to serve under him anyway. I can’t think of any Conservative MP’s that have a good word to say about him apart from Nadine Dorries. He destroyed the party.

Oldbat1 Sat 10-Aug-24 14:01:26

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

I take your comments as being a joke??? BJ has lied and lied throughout his life. As for Brexit what a total disaster. Please tell me one benefit. I despair I really do over BJ and his utter contempt of Parliament and his behaviour. Entitled entitled entitled and b****r everyone else.

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 18:50:53

We all have and are entitled to have our opinions. He is certainly a Marmite character! There are plenty of more erudite and intelligent people than me who were in favour of Brexit. I live in a fishing town and after the vote there were signs all round the harbour by the fishermen saying thank you for voting to leave. It made me feel really tearful and so glad we had voted that way. I love
Europe but hate the EU and all its doings.

Iam64 Sat 10-Aug-24 19:56:33

Which bit of the EU and all its doings do yiu hate?

Deedaa Sat 10-Aug-24 20:11:04

I think many of the fishermen have changed their minds about Brexit now they have felt the full effect. Boris is the man who wrote a very detailed account of the benefits of EU membership and why we should stay, and then switched to leave to further his own ambitions.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Aug-24 21:19:23

Can anyone tell me what has happened to British fishing since Brexit? Especially as Farage was so involved with the industry. It doesn’t really get a mention.

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 21:23:32

Iam64, all of it! I preferred our commonwealth links. I do respect that others feel very differently though and respect that.

Dinahmo Sun 11-Aug-24 23:04:17

MayBee70

Can anyone tell me what has happened to British fishing since Brexit? Especially as Farage was so involved with the industry. It doesn’t really get a mention.

That's because it's virtually disappeared.

MayBee70 Sun 11-Aug-24 23:17:19

Dinahmo

MayBee70

Can anyone tell me what has happened to British fishing since Brexit? Especially as Farage was so involved with the industry. It doesn’t really get a mention.

That's because it's virtually disappeared.

But I thought fishing was one of the main reasons for Brexit? Farage on his boat on the Thames etc.

vegansrock Mon 12-Aug-24 05:24:36

The fishing industry has been wiped out by Brexit, which is a bit ironic. As for BJ being a “man of integrity” !! Words fail- all the evidence points to him being a lazy liar who cheated on numerous partners and the worse PM for decades , even counting Liz Truss .

David49 Mon 12-Aug-24 05:58:14

www.bbc.co.uk/news/64430216

For the sake of accuracy despite a lot of noise the UK quotas have increased since Brexit, there have been some losses and gains overall it’s up.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Aug-24 06:00:15

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

I don’t know even where to start here😄😄

So I won’t

MayBee70 Mon 12-Aug-24 06:06:26

Whitewavemark2

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

I don’t know even where to start here😄😄

So I won’t

Well, he was certainly on the large side compared to most of his colleagues….

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Aug-24 07:41:50

😄😄

Iam64 Mon 12-Aug-24 08:05:45

And we wonder why there is conflict and unrest - when Some People believe nonsense