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Toilet training part II

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Sallywally1 Sat 10-Aug-24 09:15:40

Is anyone else worried about the environmental impact of disposable nappies. The fact is that they are nit disposable and stay around for ages.

It then mine had cloth nappies!

BlueBelle Sat 10-Aug-24 09:27:48

Hate them but young parents want to use them
They should be banned

Callistemon213 Sat 10-Aug-24 09:30:11

Yes.
I imagine mountains of them taking over the earth.
They should go into clinical waste bags to be incinerated but thst in itself could cause pollution problems.

Every minute more than 300,000 disposable nappies (or diapers) around the world are incinerated, sent to landfill or pollute the environment. They are one of the biggest contributors to plastic waste globally.
World Economic Forum

BlueBelle Sat 10-Aug-24 09:39:40

Get your babies out of nappies folk !!
I see children of 2 and 3 walking around in these things hanging from their bums full of goodness knows what and 3/4 year olds trying to talk with dummies stuck in their mouths
What’s it all about ?

eddiecat78 Sat 10-Aug-24 09:52:39

I too an concerned about the environmental impact but far more mums are working than when my children were little and they, and the nurseries they use, don't have the time or facilities to deal with Terry nappies.
Let's also remember that many older ladies have to wear pads and disposable are far more convenient, comfortable and discreet than the alternatives

Sago Sat 10-Aug-24 10:00:19

Our daughter was dry day and night by her second birthday.
I used Terry nappies as disposable were not very good in the 80’s and beyond our budget!
Far more incentive to toilet train when you’ve got a nappy bucket in the bathroom.

Mollygo Sat 10-Aug-24 10:15:17

eddiecat78

I too an concerned about the environmental impact but far more mums are working than when my children were little and they, and the nurseries they use, don't have the time or facilities to deal with Terry nappies.
Let's also remember that many older ladies have to wear pads and disposable are far more convenient, comfortable and discreet than the alternatives

Well said eddiecat78.
My children had terry nappies, (thank heavens for nappy liners), buckets of nappisan and endless nappies drying round the fire in winter, but I was at home to deal with them.
We used them again for a while when DH took over the childminding of our DGC, but the convenience of disposables won in the end, not to mention the saving in water and fuel for heating to wash the things.
Your point about disposable pads for periods or bladder issues is something else to consider. For every person who uses fabric strips and rewashes them there are hundreds who would find that unacceptable and difficult to deal with at work.

MissInterpreted Sat 10-Aug-24 10:18:56

No, used them with my own children and GS and would do it all over again, purely for the convenience factor. I wouldn't have had the time (nor the inclination) to deal with terry nappies, and I certainly wouldn't be using anything other than disposable pants or pads if I needed to now either.

LOUISA1523 Sat 10-Aug-24 10:25:28

Used disposables for my 3 in the 90s ....I worked so didn't have time or inclination to be washing reusable nappies....never knew anyone using them at that time so things must have moved on by early 90s .... the new guidance around toilet training is to start around 6 to 8 months when babies can sit up ...its called potty learning ....I think this is as a result of so many children starting school in nappies these days

SueDonim Sat 10-Aug-24 12:34:50

My 2.5yo GS was toilet-trained by his nursery last week. It took three days. Two days and several changes of clothes, the third day, the penny dropped and there’s been hardly an accident since. He’s waking up dry most mornings, too. He’s very proud of himself.

The nursery doesn’t bother with a potty, they go straight for toilet usage with a step. I guess it’s a win for them, too, with fewer nappies to change!

Grandmabatty Sat 10-Aug-24 12:44:41

I used Terry nappies for my first and was constantly soaking, washing and drying them, while working full time. It was onerous. My second child, I used disposable nappies and what a difference! They freed me up to actually spend time with my children after work. If you have the ability to not work, then real nappies are fine. I know there is a movement for reusable period products and incontinence pads. Not for me. Disposable all the way

Deedaa Sat 10-Aug-24 22:15:12

My daughter used reusable nappies for her two. I was looking after them during the week so she would usually put them through the washing machine and hang them up to dry. When they were dry I would sit and put them back together (they were made in several pieces) while the baby slept. Saved a lot of money on disposables and she got a grant from the council when she bought them. My mother in law was a much worse problem with her incontinence pads. She wore them all the time and seemed to get through dozens. I asked the Council about disposal and was told they should just go in the normal rubbish bin. I used to feel sorry for the bin men because they absolutely stank of ammonia.

Callistemon213 Sat 10-Aug-24 22:22:26

Many Councils will provide yellow bags for clinical waste, eg nappies, incontinence pads.

JenniferEccles Sat 10-Aug-24 23:15:36

I know I shouldn’t really say it, but I think today’s disposable napping are absolutely brilliant!
They fit so well, they don’t leak at all, so the clothes stay dry.

Honestly it was a revelation to me when I first encountered them with my grandchildren.

Yes obviously there is the environmental issue, but honestly, would anyone want to go back to towelling nappies, which, despite my best efforts with the awful plastic pants, still leaked onto the clothes.

I believe there are biodegradable ones around now but from what I’ve heard they are not very effective.

I don’t know what the answer is.
I certainly can’t see busy modern mums giving them up.

BlueBelle Sun 11-Aug-24 04:42:11

Why do people suggest that mums only work today !! Look at mums in the war and after My own mum worked 8 till 6 with only Sunday off most of my childhood and still managed without disposable nappies
I wouldn’t be so against them if they were only used for 6 months but they are used for years children are starting school in them that’s not through mums working its because its too easy and sorry but it makes for lazy patenting

Callistemon213 Sun 11-Aug-24 07:30:54

BlueBelle

Why do people suggest that mums only work today !! Look at mums in the war and after My own mum worked 8 till 6 with only Sunday off most of my childhood and still managed without disposable nappies
I wouldn’t be so against them if they were only used for 6 months but they are used for years children are starting school in them that’s not through mums working its because its too easy and sorry but it makes for lazy patenting

That's why we were toilet trained much earlier.
No wet or soiled nappies to deal without a washing machine, no soggy nappies hanging down our legs when we were 3 or 4!
We were generally toilet trained by about 15 months, 18 months at the latest.

PaperMonster Sun 11-Aug-24 08:11:01

I really wanted to use reusable but struggled with getting them dry, fitting them under clothes, and a very grumpy baby when she was in them. Her grandma said there was no way she was dealing with cloth nappies! She was out of nappies at two. Both myself and my daughter use reusable sanitary products though.

Calendargirl Sun 11-Aug-24 08:12:09

the new guidance around toilet training is to start around 6 to 8 months when baby can sit up… it’s called potty learning…I think this is a result of so many children starting school in nappies these days

Hallelujah! Has the penny finally dropped with all these so-called experts?

‘Potty learning’ indeed! Do they think giving it a trendy, re-branded name will make us think they have re-invented the wheel?

Mollygo Sun 11-Aug-24 11:53:12

^’Potty learning’ indeed! Do they think giving it a trendy, re-branded name will make us think they have re-invented the wheel?

Yes-though actually it’s more to persuade young parents that this is the way to go.

grandtanteJE65 Sun 11-Aug-24 12:53:32

Well, well, well,

They could have saved themselves a lot of trouble if they would only listen to the Auld Wives!

But when has the world ever done that?

PaperMonster Sun 11-Aug-24 21:39:05

Isn’t that elimination communication?

NotSpaghetti Thu 22-Aug-24 14:43:44

There are lots of parents using cloth nappies for environmental reasons though - four of my seven grandchildren had cloth nappies.
Both my daughters used them for their children.
My son's three children all had disposable nappies.

I know several of my daughters' friends used cloth nappies too as they all gifted the outgrown ones to each other.
They also got a council (I think) grant to get started.

MissAdventure Thu 22-Aug-24 14:54:48

How about incontinence pads?
Perhaps people should start wearing towelling nappies.

Daddima Thu 22-Aug-24 15:05:32

Calendargirl

^the new guidance around toilet training is to start around 6 to 8 months when baby can sit up… it’s called potty learning…I think this is a result of so many children starting school in nappies these days^

Hallelujah! Has the penny finally dropped with all these so-called experts?

‘Potty learning’ indeed! Do they think giving it a trendy, re-branded name will make us think they have re-invented the wheel?

To me a child is toilet trained when they learn that they need to empty their bowels or bladder, and either go and do so by themselves, or communicate to their caregiver. I have never encountered a six or eight month old who could do that.

Calendargirl Thu 22-Aug-24 15:22:09

toilet training to start at around 6 to 8 months

‘Start’ being the operative word.