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Re unqualified people giving medical opinions on Internet

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Vintagejazz Fri 20-Sept-24 21:37:45

I've just seen it again on Mumsnet. Someone unwisely posts symptoms on a thread and a load of posters rush in, telling the OP it could be anything from a stroke to MS. Why do people do this? It's so irresponsible and dangerous. Do they not realise there is a reason why doctors spend years training and specialising, and why numerous tests are often run before a diagnosis is made.

Just because your Aunt Marjorie had similar symptoms and was diagnosed with heart failure doesn't make you an expert.

People really should think and use common sense before rushing onto the Internet to diagnose total strangers with this, that and everything.

Wheniwasyourage Sat 21-Sept-24 21:48:37

There are conditions which are annoying or painful but certainly not dangerous. For example recently there has been a thread about plantar fasciitis, for which there seems to be no cure but time. As I have been suffering from it lately, I have found some of the suggestions very helpful in making me more comfortable while I wait for it to get better.

If I was suffering from more sinister symptoms, I would get some reassurance from people saying that yes, I should consult my GP (if/when I could get an appointment) and I think that often that is the advice that people on GN give.

RosiesMaw2 Sat 21-Sept-24 21:58:11

Vintagejazz

Well my original post was based on threads I've seen on Mumsnet. No I haven't personally had a bad experience but have seen so many people on MN and some other forums giving ill informed medical advice and presenting it as fact that I thought it was an issue worth discussion.

Perhaps what happens on Mumsnet should stay on Mumsnet?
If I was interested in it, I'd subscribe to it.

M0nica Sat 21-Sept-24 22:02:50

Theexwife

It surprises me that on here if someone says they are a lawyer, Doctor or other any profession it is accepted as true and advice given is taken as correct.

I think there is a point where you have to accept people are what they say they are. There will always be others on GN who also have legaal or medical knowledge and would quickly recognise if someone was purporting to be what they are not and offering incorrect advice.

MayBee70 Sat 21-Sept-24 22:24:01

Wheniwasyourage

There are conditions which are annoying or painful but certainly not dangerous. For example recently there has been a thread about plantar fasciitis, for which there seems to be no cure but time. As I have been suffering from it lately, I have found some of the suggestions very helpful in making me more comfortable while I wait for it to get better.

If I was suffering from more sinister symptoms, I would get some reassurance from people saying that yes, I should consult my GP (if/when I could get an appointment) and I think that often that is the advice that people on GN give.

When I had plantar fasciitis my doctor just told me to ‘ wear trainers’. Months later I went to a Scholl shop, purchased some of their insoles and walked out a new pain free woman. He also told me my sore eyes were blepharitis and I had to stop wearing make up. Which I did for ages ( in those days I didn’t leave the house without make up). It turned out to be red eye from spending so much time on the works computer. When they updated it my eyes were ok. Sometimes GP’s can get it wrong.

Mt61 Sat 21-Sept-24 23:05:52

They ask because, erm cause they can’t get a gp appointment for at least two weeks or don’t want to spend nine hrs at A & E (like we did last month)

nanna8 Sun 22-Sept-24 00:25:19

Maybe lobby Keir Harmer for a better service ?

Cossy Sun 22-Sept-24 11:06:16

Oreo

They do it cos the OP asks for their opinions.End of.
Nobody has to take replies as gospel, but posters try and be helpful.

This!

Charleygirl5 Sun 22-Sept-24 11:58:49

I have contributed a lot to the Hip and Knee thread but I did have 40 years of experience with professional qualifications and advising somebody to buy a pair of elasticated laces for shoes is not exactly life changing.

If the symptoms sounded like bone was grinding on bone and therefore grade 4 I would advise a visit to a GP because leaving it can cause more damage.

MadeInYorkshire Sun 22-Sept-24 12:09:00

After 24 lots of surgeries leaving me with some 24 different health conditions, & being a nurse, I help where I can on several forums, particularly those who need tips on how to manage things.

It isn't medical advice, it is help to someone who might have suddenly found themselves with a stoma or an especially nasty disease called Sjogrens Syndrome - I am after all an expert patient, and can give lived experience, whereas half the medical professionals who deal with some of these things, can't!

fancythat Sun 22-Sept-24 13:21:50

I dont know about Mumsnet, but on this forum, I think we need to be grateful for the free advice we are given. Personally.

biglouis Sun 22-Sept-24 13:30:09

Medical opinions from random people on the internet can be taken with a pinch of salt.

However I have seen posters asking for opinions on minor medical matters like constipation, best kind of incontinence pads, sleeplessness and so on where they might not want to go to a GP and take up their time.

No one is obliged to follow medical advice offered on the internet.

Maremia Sun 22-Sept-24 14:24:44

Have never been on Mumsnet, so can't comment on that, but I find the 'medical' threads on GN very useful and supportive, even if it's only giving the correct technical 'vocabulary' to use with the GP.

Mt61 Sun 22-Sept-24 14:48:14

Gp wouldn’t see my husband for two weeks for a pain in his calf, he said muscle pain. I looked up calf pain on YouTube (same kind of info you would find on here, they always put up a disclaimer- anyway info I found was correct, said it could be a blood clot- went off the urgent care- yes it was a blood clot. Had I had not looked it up on there, probably would have agreed with the Gp.

Charleygirl5 Sun 22-Sept-24 14:56:25

Mt61 a DVT ie a deep vein thrombosis is the first thing which should have entered your GP's brain. At your husband's age it should have been top of the differential diagnosis list and would have been easy to get a partial diagnosis there by one simple thing he should have done.

Mt61 Sun 22-Sept-24 15:12:31

Charleygirl5

Mt61 a DVT ie a deep vein thrombosis is the first thing which should have entered your GP's brain. At your husband's age it should have been top of the differential diagnosis list and would have been easy to get a partial diagnosis there by one simple thing he should have done.

Same dr that said my husbands hernia was just muscular 😩

shoppinggirl Sun 22-Sept-24 15:23:08

I saw a GP for my very swollen/painful leg. She gave me antibiotics. I managed to get another appt a week later as I was no better. The next doctor immediately diagnosed a DVT, followed by a scan and blood thinners. All rather worrying in hindsight!

Mt61 Sun 22-Sept-24 15:26:32

shoppinggirl

I saw a GP for my very swollen/painful leg. She gave me antibiotics. I managed to get another appt a week later as I was no better. The next doctor immediately diagnosed a DVT, followed by a scan and blood thinners. All rather worrying in hindsight!

😩

BlueBelle Sun 22-Sept-24 15:37:52

Well do you know vintageglass it was reading something on here that made me think about going to the doctor 18 months ago
I saw a ‘new to me’ doctor who wasn’t sure ! so thankfully put me on the 6 week cancer path I was diagnosed first with pre cancerous cells, had an op for them, which showed up stage 1 in another nearby area second op and thankfully now got a clean bill of health so far, going for my fifth check up next week fingers crossed
What I read on here pushed me into an appointment that I would probably have dithered about, as cancer hadn’t really entered my head
I think most intelligent people wouldn’t take advice as gospel but maybe make them think more about getting checked out

Dinahmo Thu 26-Sept-24 17:11:59

I've posted before about shingles. I had it about 40 years ago but my husband has had it during the last few years. Several times.

Some years ago he had a staphyloccus infection in his left knee which resulted in his knee being cut open and cleaned out. May last year he had an implant in the same year. This year the staph has reared its ugly head again. Today he saw the infection specialist who said that the infection had gone but it could come again. He has to see her again in one month.

He also asked her about the red patch on his arm. Our GP thought it might be impetigo (which can be connected to staph) but she confirmed it was shingles. The red patch is almost permanent and she said that one could continue to get shingles. He cannot have the new jab until he is at least 6 months clear of shingles, but preferably one year.

He has been living with shingles for several months almost continually and also for some years. It is the pain that is worse than anything. It is continually there to a greater or lesser degree. He has tried several different treatments - medicine, some sort of shock therapy, faith healers and homegrown.

My point in writing the above is that sometimes we non experts do have some something important to impart. If one does not accept the information, fair enough. It is one's right not to. But you would be silly (or even stupid) not to look further into any symptoms that you may have. After all, knowledge is a good thing.

welbeck Thu 26-Sept-24 17:43:43

what i find worrying on MN is the number of people who upbraid posters by declaring, is it an accident or an emergency, no.
then don't go to A&E.
with some shaming about wasting time, resources etc.
it is obvious that these people do not understand the concept of a possible medical emergency, only recognising acute trauma/injury as being an emergency.
having seen galloping medical emergency at close quarters, and trying to convince staff inside majors at A&E to take some effective action . . .
i find the MN don't-go-to-A&E brigade alarming.