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Sparklyhairgran Sun 23-Mar-25 16:58:38

I put this on mumsnet and they said it would be better here.

My daughter is a single parent (no biological dad in the picture) and has 2 kids 14 and 8. She has a partner who is nice but travels for work a lot and they don’t live together. I’m down as an emergency contact at school for both kids.

Last week me and husband were on a little mid week holiday/getaway, but we ended up closer to her than we usually are. We live 2 hours away normally. We are both retired but have had some stress and medical issues recently and really needed a break.

School phoned me to say they couldn’t get hold of her but GS 14 had an accident at sport and potentially had a broken ankle. It wasn’t broken in the end but he was in pain.

I texted her and called her but she didn’t answer (WhatsApp were unread) but it’s because she works in the medical field and they are not allowed personal phones on them.

I phoned her work to say she had to go and pick him up but couldn’t speak to her, so just left a message.
when she phoned back she asked if I could as her to drive from work to school would take at least an hour. She said she would come to A&E and meet me there if I could get him from school. Her childminder took the youngest.

At the time I was about 20 miles as the bird flies from him but they are bad roads and me and DH had dinner reservations for that night which we were looking forward to, so I said I couldn’t.
He had already had a pint at lunch so I would have had to and I’m not a confident driver.

She is now being quiet and distant and has cancelled our Easter plans with the children.

While my friends generally say that they understand why I didn’t go my other daughter was a bit shocked and said I should have and she understands why she’s cancelled Easter.

Other info - my husband is a homebody (he’s not her bio dad) but they usually get along well. He prefers not to go to her when she needs childcare, as it’s much easier when they come to us. The reason they were visiting at Easter was that she only has paid leave for one week, so by cancelling this she’s cutting off her nose to spite her face a bit.
Am I being unreasonable here?

JaneJudge Mon 24-Mar-25 20:31:07

Because of the cuts to the ambulance service?
I am told DAIlY I can’t get students having tonic clinic seizures in ambulances and their parents will have to take them to a&e. They used to jus be attended to and given rescue medication and stayed with. People young and old must be dying unnecessarily because of this

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 20:27:49

JaneJudge

The school and our emergency services left the kid in pain for 2.5hours because of austerity

austerity??

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 20:27:09

JaneJudge

The original poster was allowed to say no
She’d got her own day planned

These posts and threads show the misogyny in our society.

In what way exactly? confused

Grandmother is the emergency contact. The person to be contacted in an emergency if the parent is unavailable.
In what way is that misogynistic?

JaneJudge Mon 24-Mar-25 20:02:02

The school and our emergency services left the kid in pain for 2.5hours because of austerity

JaneJudge Mon 24-Mar-25 20:01:10

The original poster was allowed to say no
She’d got her own day planned

These posts and threads show the misogyny in our society.

eazybee Mon 24-Mar-25 17:44:09

Basically from first phone call from the school to her (then me when she didn’t answer) and her getting to the school was only about 2.5 hours.

Only about two and a half hours??
Poor child. The ultimate responsibility is the mother's and she needs a better back-up system, which I appreciate is difficult, but that is not the fault of the school. Someone would have had to be responsible for him, for two and a half hours.! You must have been aware of all this when you refused to go.
The hospital should have notified her immediately and that needs chasing up; this was an emergency, and she needs to recruit some more reliable friends closer to home.

JdotJ Mon 24-Mar-25 16:02:23

I don't think, by your words/phrasing, that you're in the UK -
Medical room
Co-workers
Only one week paid leave

BlessedArt Mon 24-Mar-25 15:49:33

Couldn’t disagree more with Baggs about the nature and danger of the broken ankle.

BlessedArt Mon 24-Mar-25 15:48:53

As a clinician I couldn’t disagree more. A possible fracture is always a potential limb-threatening situation clinically speaking. Bone marrow leakage, infection, hematomas, travelling clots are all possible, and the risk level should be decided by trained medical professionals aided by imaging. It’s an emergency without a doubt.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 15:31:14

Someone hd to stay with him, Baggs.

If a parent was detained at work and the grandparent who was the emergency contact couldn't be bothered then it would be down to a teacher to stay, perhaps send for an ambulance and escort him to hospital.

Sorry, but I needed an ambulance when I broke my ankle as there was no way I could have got to the car.

TwiceAsNice Mon 24-Mar-25 15:23:17

Sorry you are a poor example of a grandparent nothing would stop me going to my grandchild in any circumstances never mind only 20 miles away . I do several journeys of 20 miles every week just because it suits me.

I appreciate you are on holiday but really a taxi could be paid for if you didn’t want to drive if your partner didn’t want to come that would be up to him, leave him there, you can get back when grandsons is safe , reschedule the damn meal who cares about it, weren’t you too upset to eat it anyway!

As for Easter I wouldn’t want to spend it with you either I’d feel very let down

Baggs Mon 24-Mar-25 15:13:47

Parsley3

The key word here is emergency.
Grandchild has a suspected broken ankle. Who can get to him quickest? Grandmother who, unusually,is in the vicinity. Grandmother chooses not to go because she has a dinner reservation and doesn't want to miss it.
Sparkleyhairgran would you accept ,with good grace,that reason for your daughter not turning up to help you out in an emergency? You weren't being asked to drop off his forgotten gym kit, were you?

A possible broken ankle of a school child at school is not an emergency in my book. It needs dealing with certainly but an actual emergency would require an ambulance. School did not call an ambulance.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 15:07:49

I fully understand this worry people have expressed on the thread about the possible pain the boy was in, but since his mum and he didn't get back from the hospital until 'late' (if I've remembered the relevent post from the OP correctly) it sounds as if his being checked over took some time anyway, so grandma rushing over in a flap wouldn't really have helped much, if at all, anyway.

Granny could have taken him to hospital and stayed until his Mum came to take over. Otherwise a teacher (responsible adult) would have had to stay with him.
There was a younger child to consider too, who needed picking up from school or the kind friend who collected her.

I know that a fracture can be very painful as I have one at the moment. So can a sprain. When I broke my ankle I couldn't get up from the floor.

Anyway, it's all irrelevant.

Baggs Mon 24-Mar-25 15:03:24

I wasn’t comparing myself to a 14 year old but empathising with the amount of pain he must have been in.

I fully understand this worry people have expressed on the thread about the possible pain the boy was in, but since his mum and he didn't get back from the hospital until 'late' (if I've remembered the relevent post from the OP correctly) it sounds as if his being checked over took some time anyway, so grandma rushing over in a flap wouldn't really have helped much, if at all, anyway.

Having broken three bones during the last seven years myself, and having a very low pain threshold, I'm pretty sure that if you keep still the pain is not agonising. Certainly that is my experience. So, again, waiting at school – one presumes they gave him somewhere comfortable to sit and wait – won't have done him any harm.

I think shock actually helps in that regard too.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 12:52:39

petra

Allira

petra

Allira

Thank you - I won’t feel guilty. Basically it made sense to have me until we moved away from the area 7 months or so ago and I’m guessing that she’s just forgotten I was in the list. Not now at least - I’m sure she’s already has removed me in her huff 😆

So it's funny, is it?
Or is it watching the reactions of Gransnetters which is causing your amusement?

Have we been had?

Most certainly 😥 id bet the bungalow it’s a ChatBot.
I have other theories 😉

👍

Yes, but we're not allowed to say 😀

She wouldn't be invited to mine for Easter.
Nor Christmas either.

But the rest of the year is ok 😂

😂

Nah, no-one gets invited unless it's Easter or Christmas! 🐰🐣🎅

Do I get a prize for mentioning Christmas first on GN?

petra Mon 24-Mar-25 12:43:04

Allira

petra

Allira

Thank you - I won’t feel guilty. Basically it made sense to have me until we moved away from the area 7 months or so ago and I’m guessing that she’s just forgotten I was in the list. Not now at least - I’m sure she’s already has removed me in her huff 😆

So it's funny, is it?
Or is it watching the reactions of Gransnetters which is causing your amusement?

Have we been had?

Most certainly 😥 id bet the bungalow it’s a ChatBot.
I have other theories 😉

👍

Yes, but we're not allowed to say 😀

She wouldn't be invited to mine for Easter.
Nor Christmas either.

But the rest of the year is ok 😂

RosieandherMaw Mon 24-Mar-25 12:32:30

Barleyfields

I wonder if the OP has reflected on the responses she has received and on the various pathetic excuses she made for not helping her grandson and her obviously very hard-pressed (and doubtless pretty stressed) daughter? Has she decided whether her actions (or lack of) were justified and understood why her daughter no longer wishes to spend the Easter holiday with her?

And might that account for radio silence from OP ?

ElaineI Mon 24-Mar-25 10:47:37

My instinct would be to collect my grandchild however surely if the school thought he had broken his ankle they would call an ambulance as paramedics would know how to safely strap it up?
Anyway I would have gone as that is what I do.

henetha Mon 24-Mar-25 10:40:53

We all react differently to things, and no doubt you felt your reasons not to collect your grandson were understandable.
But, I know what I would have done. I would have collected my grandson and postponed the meal until another day.
I think maybe you judged it wrong.

Barleyfields Mon 24-Mar-25 10:40:02

I wonder if the OP has reflected on the responses she has received and on the various pathetic excuses she made for not helping her grandson and her obviously very hard-pressed (and doubtless pretty stressed) daughter? Has she decided whether her actions (or lack of) were justified and understood why her daughter no longer wishes to spend the Easter holiday with her?

Retroladywriting Mon 24-Mar-25 10:38:39

Allira

It might have been better going off in another direction entirely for your much-needed break, letting your DD know so she could make other emergency arrangements.

Indeed. I just hope you've all learned from this and that she has now got emergency contacts who live nearer and can be of help quickly. That's the nature of emergencies, surely?

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 10:38:38

petra

Allira

Thank you - I won’t feel guilty. Basically it made sense to have me until we moved away from the area 7 months or so ago and I’m guessing that she’s just forgotten I was in the list. Not now at least - I’m sure she’s already has removed me in her huff 😆

So it's funny, is it?
Or is it watching the reactions of Gransnetters which is causing your amusement?

Have we been had?

Most certainly 😥 id bet the bungalow it’s a ChatBot.
I have other theories 😉

👍

Yes, but we're not allowed to say 😀

She wouldn't be invited to mine for Easter.
Nor Christmas either.

nightowl Mon 24-Mar-25 10:30:29

glasshalffullagain

nightowl

A month ago I fell down a couple of stairs in a strange house and badly twisted my ankle. The pain was so intense it took my breath away and I’m embarrassed to admit I actually went into shock - I felt freezing cold and couldn’t stop shaking for quite some time.

The possibility of my 14 year old grandson in such pain, having to wait 2.5 hours until his mum could get there to take him to hospital, doesn’t bear thinking about. If he knew that his GM had been nearer but wouldn’t come to him I imagine he would be very hurt. You don’t seem to have much empathy for either your grandson or your daughter, doing her best as a single mum in a responsible job and finding there was no one she could rely on to help her in a crisis. No wonder she said she was done - you may have done more damage than you seem to realise.

I don't think comparing yourself to a 14 year old is helpful! The 14 year old presumably had some basic medical care.

Any help I ever had I bought in. Nobody did anything for me or my family, so no doubt I see things differently.

I wasn’t comparing myself to a 14 year old but empathising with the amount of pain he must have been in. I was very aware that I didn’t handle it well and I’m usually quite stoic, and I only had a sprain and not a fracture. Basic medical care won’t take away that pain.
I’m sorry you didn’t have any help from family but that’s not really relevant to this situation where the OP’s daughter had thought she had backup but it didn’t come through when she needed it.

RosieandherMaw Mon 24-Mar-25 10:26:31

Any help I ever had I bought in. Nobody did anything for me or my family, so no doubt I see things differently

In other words I’m all right Jack. God preserve us from relationships like this - where is love or compassion? .

Parsley3 Mon 24-Mar-25 10:00:58

The key word here is emergency.
Grandchild has a suspected broken ankle. Who can get to him quickest? Grandmother who, unusually,is in the vicinity. Grandmother chooses not to go because she has a dinner reservation and doesn't want to miss it.
Sparkleyhairgran would you accept ,with good grace,that reason for your daughter not turning up to help you out in an emergency? You weren't being asked to drop off his forgotten gym kit, were you?