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Sparklyhairgran Sun 23-Mar-25 16:58:38

I put this on mumsnet and they said it would be better here.

My daughter is a single parent (no biological dad in the picture) and has 2 kids 14 and 8. She has a partner who is nice but travels for work a lot and they don’t live together. I’m down as an emergency contact at school for both kids.

Last week me and husband were on a little mid week holiday/getaway, but we ended up closer to her than we usually are. We live 2 hours away normally. We are both retired but have had some stress and medical issues recently and really needed a break.

School phoned me to say they couldn’t get hold of her but GS 14 had an accident at sport and potentially had a broken ankle. It wasn’t broken in the end but he was in pain.

I texted her and called her but she didn’t answer (WhatsApp were unread) but it’s because she works in the medical field and they are not allowed personal phones on them.

I phoned her work to say she had to go and pick him up but couldn’t speak to her, so just left a message.
when she phoned back she asked if I could as her to drive from work to school would take at least an hour. She said she would come to A&E and meet me there if I could get him from school. Her childminder took the youngest.

At the time I was about 20 miles as the bird flies from him but they are bad roads and me and DH had dinner reservations for that night which we were looking forward to, so I said I couldn’t.
He had already had a pint at lunch so I would have had to and I’m not a confident driver.

She is now being quiet and distant and has cancelled our Easter plans with the children.

While my friends generally say that they understand why I didn’t go my other daughter was a bit shocked and said I should have and she understands why she’s cancelled Easter.

Other info - my husband is a homebody (he’s not her bio dad) but they usually get along well. He prefers not to go to her when she needs childcare, as it’s much easier when they come to us. The reason they were visiting at Easter was that she only has paid leave for one week, so by cancelling this she’s cutting off her nose to spite her face a bit.
Am I being unreasonable here?

LOUISA1523 Mon 31-Mar-25 10:29:56

Knittingacat

This is not a decision I would have made but I think it is relevant that the child in question was 14. This means that the mother has had time to build a network of support, of which grandparents may or may not be part. Throughout my Ds childhoods we lived nearly 300 miles away from my parents and over 450 miles away from PiL. There was no way they could help in an emergency and I had to build a network of friends who could step in if necessary. Thankfully it didn't ever happen for anything serious but I stepped in for other friends in similar situations. My DD with 2 children (9 & 5) lives nearly 2 hours away and I did step in for emergencies when they were very small (even though I was working - I found ways to get there to help) but she now has friends and neighbours close by who have helped out more recently although not needed for anything serious thankfully. Perhaps the OP always was the default contact when she lived nearer but it's easy to forget that arrangements that have been in place for so long need to be reviewed. It's also easy to forget how quickly situations change & a child that has never needed help may suddenly do so. I often think of the dr in the introduction to 24hrs in A&E who says "No-one wakes up and thinks I am going to go to A&E today". It is so difficult to prepare for future emergencies that we have no idea about but I think this family have learned lessons for the future (especially from the challenging responses given to the OP) and perhaps the child's mother is feeling guilty, helpless and stressed and is lashing out at the one person she can - just like she perhaps did when she was growing up.

I think the OP has learnt that her mother couldn't go the extra mile for her when she asked for help ...bit sad that

LOUISA1523 Mon 31-Mar-25 08:33:39

I would have gone

NotSpaghetti Mon 31-Mar-25 00:36:14

JaneJudge

am I the only one who has read that they were ON HOLIDAY

Yes. But only 20 miles away and it wasn't going to take all night!

StoneofDestiny Sun 30-Mar-25 21:23:46

Blimey OP! If you are not bothered what your daughters or grandchildren think, why are you keen to ask a bunch of strangers what they think?

Knittingacat Wed 26-Mar-25 11:21:30

This is not a decision I would have made but I think it is relevant that the child in question was 14. This means that the mother has had time to build a network of support, of which grandparents may or may not be part. Throughout my Ds childhoods we lived nearly 300 miles away from my parents and over 450 miles away from PiL. There was no way they could help in an emergency and I had to build a network of friends who could step in if necessary. Thankfully it didn't ever happen for anything serious but I stepped in for other friends in similar situations. My DD with 2 children (9 & 5) lives nearly 2 hours away and I did step in for emergencies when they were very small (even though I was working - I found ways to get there to help) but she now has friends and neighbours close by who have helped out more recently although not needed for anything serious thankfully. Perhaps the OP always was the default contact when she lived nearer but it's easy to forget that arrangements that have been in place for so long need to be reviewed. It's also easy to forget how quickly situations change & a child that has never needed help may suddenly do so. I often think of the dr in the introduction to 24hrs in A&E who says "No-one wakes up and thinks I am going to go to A&E today". It is so difficult to prepare for future emergencies that we have no idea about but I think this family have learned lessons for the future (especially from the challenging responses given to the OP) and perhaps the child's mother is feeling guilty, helpless and stressed and is lashing out at the one person she can - just like she perhaps did when she was growing up.

DamaskRose Tue 25-Mar-25 16:09:01

You say you’re ringing her “to find out why” but you know why. She feels you let her down. I think the main problem here is a total breakdown in communication, on everyone’s part. Two hours away is too far to be an emergency contact so that needs to be addressed. But imho your first move is to apologise, to your daughter and your DGS. Even if you do think she’s being petty, be the bigger person. I don’t agree with what you did or with your trying to justify it but it’s done and it’s time to move on, your daughter is your daughter so please don’t let this come between you.

BlessedArt Tue 25-Mar-25 15:21:39

Sorry, that post was to Baggs

BlessedArt Tue 25-Mar-25 15:21:20

It can if the injury isn’t dealt with in a timely manner.

stillawipp Tue 25-Mar-25 11:06:08

Sorry, your poor grandson lost his father when he was 1, and then one of his remaining close family wouldn’t go to him when he had an accident and his mother couldn’t go, and you are wondering why she’s cross with you??? Seriously???

Baggs Tue 25-Mar-25 10:57:00

BlessedArt

As a clinician I couldn’t disagree more. A possible fracture is always a potential limb-threatening situation clinically speaking. Bone marrow leakage, infection, hematomas, travelling clots are all possible, and the risk level should be decided by trained medical professionals aided by imaging. It’s an emergency without a doubt.

Is bone marrow leakage one of the things that send someone into shock when a bone is broken?

Barleyfields Tue 25-Mar-25 08:38:57

I expect the daughter will have had the grandparents removed from the emergency contact list after this episode Macadia.

Macadia Tue 25-Mar-25 06:17:22

Maybe in the future, you could let your daughter and the school know, in advance, what dates you cannot fulfill your duty as an emergency contact so that someone can take on the very important responsibility in your absence?

Sara1954 Tue 25-Mar-25 06:01:29

I think my parents might have reacted like this, but my in-laws would have crawled over hot coals if any of the children needed them

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 22:51:34

JaneJudge

Not here, ambulance service is on its knees. They aren’t waiting for appropriate people to emerge
Simples

I have absolutely no idea what you mean.

The school could not allow the child to go off in an ambulance, if one was to be available, and to go to A&E on their own without an accompanying adult. The school is in loco parentis.

Skye17 Mon 24-Mar-25 22:51:33

I would have gone. You still would have had all the rest of the holiday.

Barleyfields Mon 24-Mar-25 22:51:26

You’ve summed it up perfectly RosieandherMaw. Sad indeed.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 22:48:57

JaneJudge

And misogynistic because we are just relying on women to go to emergency situations with their children/grandchildren. It’s ridiculous

We know now the bio father had died but all other ‘dads’ aren’t held responsible, just the Gran in this instance

No-one has mentioned fathers have they?
🤔

Grandfather is not the biological grandfather.

RosieandherMaw Mon 24-Mar-25 22:30:46

What a sad and pathetic thread.
Lame excuses, selfish attitudes, a total empathy bypass for a working mum by her own mother who she might have expected to be the one person she could rely on.
Yes, the mum should have had a Plan B for her emergency contact if her job makes it impossible to drop everything at a moment’s notice and I hope she has rethought her emergency contact numbers but any breakdown in their relationship lies fair and square at Gran’s door. There are a lot of bridges to be built.

Norah Mon 24-Mar-25 21:46:52

BlessedArt

Grandmother is the emergency contact.
Her husband may or may not be the daughter’s father, but he is not listed as a contact. The father of the children is not alive. Exactly what “men” in this situation are getting a pass in favor of women bashing? Gransnet indeed has a problem with misogyny but it’s more than a stretch to say this is the thread that illustrates it. The OP happens to be a woman who simply chose not to be there for her daughter’s child in need. Pretty sure the responses would be the same if a father posted the OP.

I still don’t understand how the daughter is wrong for choosing not to prioritize her mum on Easter, but the OP is fine for prioritizing dinner and her holiday over the grandchild. What makes the OP entitled to her daughter’s Easter Sunday? The daughter is every bit as entitled as her mum to choose how she uses her free time.

Excellent response.

If I ever ignored needs - I'd expect to be ignored in return.

BlessedArt Mon 24-Mar-25 21:28:11

Grandmother is the emergency contact.
Her husband may or may not be the daughter’s father, but he is not listed as a contact. The father of the children is not alive. Exactly what “men” in this situation are getting a pass in favor of women bashing? Gransnet indeed has a problem with misogyny but it’s more than a stretch to say this is the thread that illustrates it. The OP happens to be a woman who simply chose not to be there for her daughter’s child in need. Pretty sure the responses would be the same if a father posted the OP.

I still don’t understand how the daughter is wrong for choosing not to prioritize her mum on Easter, but the OP is fine for prioritizing dinner and her holiday over the grandchild. What makes the OP entitled to her daughter’s Easter Sunday? The daughter is every bit as entitled as her mum to choose how she uses her free time.

Silverbrooks Mon 24-Mar-25 21:06:29

The grandmother has a husband albeit not her daughter’s father. He was there when all this was going on.

For all her excuses, grandmother could have called a taxi to get to her grandson’s school. She was only 20 miles away.

I’d like to know if at any time in the two and half hours between the school first trying to reach the lad’s mother and when she was able to get away from work to pick him up, whether the grandmother actually bothered to call her grandson to ask how he was.

JaneJudge Mon 24-Mar-25 20:46:14

Be kind

JaneJudge Mon 24-Mar-25 20:45:34

And misogynistic because we are just relying on women to go to emergency situations with their children/grandchildren. It’s ridiculous

We know now the bio father had died but all other ‘dads’ aren’t held responsible, just the Gran in this instance

JaneJudge Mon 24-Mar-25 20:43:01

Not here, ambulance service is on its knees. They aren’t waiting for appropriate people to emerge
Simples

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 20:35:20

JaneJudge

Because of the cuts to the ambulance service?
I am told DAIlY I can’t get students having tonic clinic seizures in ambulances and their parents will have to take them to a&e. They used to jus be attended to and given rescue medication and stayed with. People young and old must be dying unnecessarily because of this

A child would need to be accompanied by an appropriate adult, the logical one is the emergency contact.

Simples.