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Caleo Thu 26-Jun-25 13:18:17

AIBU to not expect Gransnetters to be interested in AI danger?

petra Fri 27-Jun-25 16:58:31

It’s not all bad.

www.facebook.com/reel/1427217081634263

Elegran Fri 27-Jun-25 11:44:50

"Offensive AI use is more limited, controlled, and subject to ethical and legal frameworks." until some maverick or group decides that ethical and legal frameworks don't apply to them.

Elegran Fri 27-Jun-25 11:42:01

Too easy, not to easy.

Elegran Fri 27-Jun-25 11:36:14

We all also need to keep up our knowledge of how it can be (and is being) used to flood the internet (where we now search for information to answer all kinds of questions, from how to boil an egg to what kind of personal and professional history is avalable on a candidate for election to political power.) With AI able to access so much data already on the net to legitimately answer the innocuous questions, and vested interests controlling that content via AI, it is all to easy for facts and figures to be massaged with a few keystrokes and distributed far and wide.

Whiff Fri 27-Jun-25 11:31:12

Caleo so was the bombing of Coventry by the Germans . My family come from Smethwick originally near Birmingham and were bombed night after night. My mom started work at 14 in Phillip's bicycle factory but during the war they made bullets for accak guns I know that's not spelt correctly but can't think the right way at the moment . They worked 24 hours a day 12 hour shifts my mom ran through the black out risking being killed . My dad fought in Burma,Indian ,Egypt and was parachuted into Naples with no training just hooked up to a cable that opened the shute as the SM pushed them out of the plane saying bend your knees when you land .

The second world war has no comparison with the weapons of today so why mention Dresden .

Drones can be send 100's of miles away to bomb places .
AI is something to fear but not just for destroying people and countries . But it can cause economical destruction as much as any bomb .

Caleo Fri 27-Jun-25 10:45:59

I agree with Cossy that we all need to be educated in uses and abuses of artificial intelligence, including its use as a tool for keeping informed about all manner of things from how to clean bathroom tiles to political philosophy

Caleo Fri 27-Jun-25 10:41:10

From ChatGPT

"Defensive AI use is well-established and growing (surveillance, logistics, cybersecurity).

Offensive AI use is more limited, controlled, and subject to ethical and legal frameworks.

The UK does not currently deploy AI-powered lethal autonomous weapons but is exploring advanced capabilities with human oversight. "

Cossy Fri 27-Jun-25 10:40:05

I feel the same way about AI as do the internet.

Some great positives and some real downsides.

Keeping up to date with developments and knowledge will help a to keep safe and to embrace the good stuff

Caleo Fri 27-Jun-25 10:37:50

Yes Whiff,AI is being used as a weapon by regimes. I do not know if the UK or the US uses AI unethically , or not. I hope not.

I'm instinctively patriotic. However the UK is not squeaky clean. It's alleged that aeroplanes carrying US prisoners for rendition were permitted to refuel at Prestwick, we have been sending parts for weapons to Israel, and the bombing of Dresden was deplorable.

Whiff Thu 26-Jun-25 18:57:49

Caleo if you just put AI as a title you will get confused posts .

So what do you mean will AI be used to use as a weapon against other countries like nuclear bombs or to de stabilise a countries economy ?

Elegran Thu 26-Jun-25 18:26:06

I don't know. Facebook no longer does factchecking. There is an option to report posts, but only by ticking one of a selection of reasons, and no way of adding a detail. I have reported posts full of misinformation, but the "facts" they were misrepresenting have still reappeared in other posts. Once a "fact" has been seen and believed by others, it is very difficult to uproot it like a weed from the public consciousness. It has already seeded.

Caleo Thu 26-Jun-25 18:19:17

I asked ChatGPT and it replied:-

"Yes, Facebook (now part of Meta) and other major social media platforms do take steps to combat misinformation, but the effectiveness and consistency of these efforts are often debated.

Here’s a breakdown of what they typically claim to do and some criticism they receive:
"

Caleo Thu 26-Jun-25 18:15:35

Elegran, do FB and other social media undertake to get rid of misinformation? A good question to put to ChatGPT!

RosieandherMaw Thu 26-Jun-25 18:15:18

butterandjam

petra

butterandjam

Most of us are too old to get pregnant. Though my door is always open to George Clooney

Someone has to tell you. AI isn’t artificial incemination it’s artificial intelligence
If you don’t understand this new technology you are in serious danger of being scammed.
Educate yourself.

You have just been scammed, pet.

Your spelling isn't very bright either.

However if you substitute insemination every time for “intelligence” it puts a whole new slant on the debate🤣🤣🤣

Caleo Thu 26-Jun-25 18:10:18

I really meant the use of weaponised AI by regimes including UK and US.

Is it going to be possible democratise control of AI as a weapon?

Elegran Thu 26-Jun-25 17:40:44

Caleo

AIBU to not expect Gransnetters to be interested in AI danger?

Any GNer who has seen even a little of FB lately can't help by be aware of the ludicrous but worrying sight of sentimentally fulsome AI posts accompanying old photographs that are completely irrelevant to the details in the text or which misinterpret a common object or action known to every real person over 40 alive at the moment, but which will not be famiar to future generations - history rewritten by robots!

What is also worrying is the number of ad videos showing trusted celebrities apparently endorsing medical and financial products which turn out to be deepfake inventions created by AI using stills of a celebrity in a different context. If people can be falsely shown doing and saying what they have never said or done, how can we trust CCCT security cameras? How can we trust evidence given in criminal trials if the prosecution and the defence can produce two videos of the accused, one showing them committing a crime and the other showing them doing something innocent somewhere else, both apparently at exactly the same time?

Allira Thu 26-Jun-25 16:50:19

Mine too.
Should I be worried?

butterandjam Thu 26-Jun-25 16:49:18

Allira

Ooh er, and I congratulated you too!

No need for that, pet

Alexa says my period is very late indeed

Allira Thu 26-Jun-25 16:27:38

Ooh er, and I congratulated you too!

No need for that, pet

butterandjam Thu 26-Jun-25 16:24:34

petra

butterandjam

Most of us are too old to get pregnant. Though my door is always open to George Clooney

Someone has to tell you. AI isn’t artificial incemination it’s artificial intelligence
If you don’t understand this new technology you are in serious danger of being scammed.
Educate yourself.

You have just been scammed, pet.

Your spelling isn't very bright either.

Allira Thu 26-Jun-25 16:05:21

Beechnut

Allira

petra

butterandjam

Most of us are too old to get pregnant. Though my door is always open to George Clooney

Someone has to tell you. AI isn’t artificial incemination it’s artificial intelligence
If you don’t understand this new technology you are in serious danger of being scammed.
Educate yourself.

It's too late, I heard butterandjam is indeed pregnant!!
Congratulations are in order 👼
It's a Baby Clooney!!

With AI it might be a Baby Clone.

😂😂😂

petra Thu 26-Jun-25 16:00:53

Allira

petra

butterandjam

Most of us are too old to get pregnant. Though my door is always open to George Clooney

Someone has to tell you. AI isn’t artificial incemination it’s artificial intelligence
If you don’t understand this new technology you are in serious danger of being scammed.
Educate yourself.

It's too late, I heard butterandjam is indeed pregnant!!
Congratulations are in order 👼
It's a Baby Clooney!!

PMSL 😂😂

Beechnut Thu 26-Jun-25 15:59:50

Allira

petra

butterandjam

Most of us are too old to get pregnant. Though my door is always open to George Clooney

Someone has to tell you. AI isn’t artificial incemination it’s artificial intelligence
If you don’t understand this new technology you are in serious danger of being scammed.
Educate yourself.

It's too late, I heard butterandjam is indeed pregnant!!
Congratulations are in order 👼
It's a Baby Clooney!!

With AI it might be a Baby Clone.

Allira Thu 26-Jun-25 15:56:45

With every new technology, there is danger as well as the benefits it brings.

There does need to be proper legislation but how can one government do that alone? Governments need to collaborate.

Allira Thu 26-Jun-25 15:54:23

petra

butterandjam

Most of us are too old to get pregnant. Though my door is always open to George Clooney

Someone has to tell you. AI isn’t artificial incemination it’s artificial intelligence
If you don’t understand this new technology you are in serious danger of being scammed.
Educate yourself.

It's too late, I heard butterandjam is indeed pregnant!!
Congratulations are in order 👼
It's a Baby Clooney!!