Lovely ladies etc - what about the men?

Of course ,
men are welcome ,but Gransnet need to change their website .
It looks like females only .

I also wonder if men are that keen on contributing.
I see the Grandpas all varying age and interests at church a couple of times a week and I realise that even at their age -there's an enormous difference between the sexes .

The day football and spark plugs start to feature, I'm off!

Was about to say that DH would be pleased to talk about football but wouldn't know what a spark plug was.

Mine is the other way around!

Men are very often excluded in this society. Men's social life often revolves around work and when they retire they are left with nothing. A lot of the social groups are women only, ladies coffee morning or ladies that lunch. They have started Men's sheds but a lot of them do accept women as well as most men do not want a segregated society. There are a lot of men that don't follow football or want to spend their evening drinking in the pub. This sense of being excluded may well be one of the many reasons the male suicide rate is three times that of women.

Many men like to congregate with other men, that was why there was such fierce resistance to women being allowed into working men’s clubs except on special occasions.
When men join women’s clubs under whatever guise, you often find they like to take over.

Being lonely once you retire isn’t a particularly male thing as we’ve seen on many GN threads.

It might do more of them good to join a group like GN, where they can share sympathy, worries, jokes, information etc. especially if they can’t or don’t want to get out and meet up, but getting them here . . . ?

Jackiest

Men are very often excluded in this society. Men's social life often revolves around work and when they retire they are left with nothing. A lot of the social groups are women only, ladies coffee morning or ladies that lunch. They have started Men's sheds but a lot of them do accept women as well as most men do not want a segregated society. There are a lot of men that don't follow football or want to spend their evening drinking in the pub. This sense of being excluded may well be one of the many reasons the male suicide rate is three times that of women.

Probus!

I think some Probus groups do allow women members but the one here doesn't.

Hi PaynesGrey - thanks for the suggestion. I have just reposted my earlier regimental band story on Geneology/Memories and will follow it up with a continuation of the saga.

Mollygo

Many men like to congregate with other men, that was why there was such fierce resistance to women being allowed into working men’s clubs except on special occasions.
When men join women’s clubs under whatever guise, you often find they like to take over.

Being lonely once you retire isn’t a particularly male thing as we’ve seen on many GN threads.

It might do more of them good to join a group like GN, where they can share sympathy, worries, jokes, information etc. especially if they can’t or don’t want to get out and meet up, but getting them here . . . ?

Working men's clubs disappeared many years ago with only one or two exceptions. This is one of the exceptions www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd62yew50xyo . Yes there are some sexist men just as there are some sexist women but most have realised that people should not be segregated when there really is no need to.

IWasFirstClarinet

OK, you have managed to persuade me to write something. My user name? I was in the British army, in the regimental band, and worked my way up from Third Clarinet to First. Third Clarinet was the lowest of the low. It was where the bandmaster put all newcomers, so there was often about four of them. Colloquially they were known as "The Third Ducks". You know waltzes? Of course you do! The rhythm goes "Um quack quack, um quack quack" - hence the name "Third Duck!
I really could play the clarinet when I joined the army so I got rapidly moved up to Second Clarinet, followed by Repiano Clarinet (a strange word, that) and eventually to First.
Good for me! But it soon caused me a heck of a lot of problems when I leap-frogged the only other Repiano player. He was a sergeant; I was a trooper; he felt slighted; he took his revenge.

Hi IWasFirstClarinet I am glad you plucked up the courage to post. I always find other peoples' careers interesting.

I hope you write on GN regularly from now on. It interesting to hear from people with a wide range of backgrounds and there are too few men on here.

I don’t think it very important either way. Nothing wrong with a forum primarily for grandmothers. Why not?

But, GN isn't just for grandmothers- that's my point.

I meant but does it much matter if people assume it’s primarily for grandmothers? What difference does it make?

kittylester

But, GN isn't just for grandmothers- that's my point.

But you can’t make men post on it unless they want to do so.
There are millions of women who don’t post on here either.

winterwhite

I don’t think it very important either way. Nothing wrong with a forum primarily for grandmothers. Why not?

Agree. I actually like to think I’m chatting to women.

I would definitely welcome hearing from men. I spent most of my working life among men and got along with them all very well. My DH is not a typical male (he knows what spark plugs are but couldn't do anything with one!). He'd never join a mens'shed for example. He actually gets along better with women, especially if they appreciate his witty humour, but he'd never join a group like Gransnet.

^But you can’t make men post on it unless they want to do so.
There are millions of women who don’t post on here either.^

But we shouldn't just address other females.

So how are you going to make men do something they’re not interested in kittylester?
Knowing a working answer to that would be amazing, and not just for GN

fancythat

You can try.

Personally, my OH wouldnt come within 10 miles of this site.

Would your's?

Probably not 🤣🤣
Other men always welcome.......

Skydancer

winterwhite

I don’t think it very important either way. Nothing wrong with a forum primarily for grandmothers. Why not?

Agree. I actually like to think I’m chatting to women.

I think a persons gender is irrelevant it is what they have to say that is important and we should never discourage anyone from posting because of their gender.

But not to say, 'Can I ask you lovely ladies' or the equivalent.

Personally you can call me whatever you like l’m happy to comment whatever. Working I always had a predominantly female work force, plus a wife and 3 daughters, even the dogs were bitches, I survived all that unscathed.
As for other men, most wouldnt be interested in the topics or over emotional responses, although many would benefit understanding women’s point of view. For men it’s work or football, cars, golf, rugby or whatever they do in spare time.

Many of my friends are retired a lot widowed, some work part time like myself, we have hobbies, meet others, usually in the pub, have family locally as well, loneliness doesn’t seem a problem for most but I’m sure there are some.

What’s made you think of this now kittylester? Has a man that you know complained he wasn’t welcome here?
As it’s called Gransnet and the logo is women I can’t think that men would be much interested really.

kittylester

But not to say, 'Can I ask you lovely ladies' or the equivalent.

Have you just watched Les Mis?
Lovely ladies
Waiting for a bite
That’s the only reason I can think of.

It bothers me quite often when women assume that the only people they are talking to are other females.

GN has always been a mixed site and, in fact, the Good Morning thread is started daily by Mick, but it would be a shame to discourage other men from joining in